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    Trucks vs bikes crash statistics

    Just over one week ago, the Ministry of Transport released the 2006 vehicle crash statistics. I have been comparing the lightest motorised vehicles (motorcycles) with the heaviest motorised vehicles (trucks) and found some interesting statistics.

    In 2006, 38 motorcyclists1 were killed and a further 1017 were injured in road crashes. This was 10 percent of all deaths and 7 percent of all reported injuries on our roads.
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    They do not give the percentage of total distance travelled by motorcycles, but registration data does show that motorcycles, including scooters and mopeds, make up 7% of the total vehicle fleet.

    In 2006, 86 people were killed and a further 1141 were injured in road crashes involving trucks1. This was 21 percent of all deaths and 8 percent of all reported injuries on our roads.....

    Because of their large mass trucks tend to be over represented in serious crashes. Deaths from crashes involving trucks make up around 21 percent of the total road toll, while only approximately 7 percent of the total distance travelled on NZ roads is travelled by trucks.
    So from this data we can see that trucks are more dangerous than bikes. So why do they pay lower ACC charges?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Just over one week ago, the Ministry of Transport released the 2006 vehicle crash statistics. I have been comparing the lightest motorised vehicles (motorcycles) with the heaviest motorised vehicles (trucks) and found some interesting statistics.

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    They do not give the percentage of total distance travelled by motorcycles, but registration data does show that motorcycles, including scooters and mopeds, make up 7% of the total vehicle fleet.



    So from this data we can see that trucks are more dangerous than bikes. So why do they pay lower ACC charges?
    quite interesting reading there... bikes cause less wear & tear on the roads than trucks do as well... shouldnt we have reduced levies as opposed to higher ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    So from this data we can see that trucks are more dangerous than bikes. So why do they pay lower ACC charges?
    I been thinking that for years...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    So from this data we can see that trucks are more dangerous than bikes. So why do they pay lower ACC charges?
    Because in motorcycle crashes it's the rider who is at far higher risk to be injured or killed... whereas in accidents involving trucks and other traffic, the truck driver is at far lower risk himself of being injured or killed - that's reserved for the other road users. It's all a "user pays" system.
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    It says involving trucks so the majority of deaths / injuries may well be drivers / passengers in cars which are subject to ACC levy's.

    Lorry drivers are probably less likely to sustain serious injury compared to car drivers / passengers and motorcylclists so as ACC levy's are based on 'Injury Cost' the levy may well be less for Lorry's.

    Lorries also pay RUC charges.

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    heres a point too--FarmBike accidents.Race bike accidents.MX accidents still qualify as bike accidents --HMM
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    Quote Originally Posted by FROSTY View Post
    heres a point too--FarmBike accidents.Race bike accidents.MX accidents still qualify as bike accidents --HMM
    I know that Farmbikes accidents are reported and they do not pay ACC but then Farmers pay ACC so I guess it that works out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deviant Esq View Post
    Because in motorcycle crashes it's the rider who is at far higher risk to be injured or killed... whereas in accidents involving trucks and other traffic, the truck driver is at far lower risk himself of being injured or killed - that's reserved for the other road users. It's all a "user pays" system.
    Quote Originally Posted by Grahameeboy View Post
    It says involving trucks so the majority of deaths / injuries may well be drivers / passengers in cars which are subject to ACC levy's.

    Lorry drivers are probably less likely to sustain serious injury compared to car drivers / passengers and motorcylclists so as ACC levy's are based on 'Injury Cost' the levy may well be less for Lorry's.

    Lorries also pay RUC charges.
    You are both absolutely correct.

    In 96 percent of fatal crashes involving motorcyclists, the motorcyclist or a pillion passenger was among those killed (2002- 2006 data).
    In crashes involving trucks most of the deaths (about 80%) are not truck occupants, but rather the other road users involved.
    As motorcyclists generaly only injure themselves, but truck crashes injure others, I believe that makes trucks much more dangerous. They should therefore pay much more. RUC does not go to ACC but merely makes up the loss of road tax charged on petrol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    As motorcyclists generaly only injure themselves, but truck crashes injure others, I believe that makes trucks much more dangerous. They should therefore pay much more. RUC does not go to ACC but merely makes up the loss of road tax charged on petrol.
    I think we all agree with that sentiment. From that point of view, drivers who have been done for DIC should also be made to pay higher ACC premiums, as should boy racers, as should anyone who has been convicted of careless / dangerous driving causing serious injury / death, as should anyone who continuously drives / rides a motor vehicle that is seriously defective yet passes warrants... hell, we could be here all night.
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    But most trucks are owned by a business, and the government is already taking way way more money than they should from investors.

    I say we should remove all acc tax from trucks and let motorcyclists pay.

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    BRONZ, yes/no?

    Isn't this the sort of thing that BRONZ was born into our world for?

    Gathering and representing information and statistics that benefit motorcyclists and break down incorrect stereotyping?

    Are they (BRONZ) the people most suitable to present the facts to bodies of influence? Cheers John.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    As motorcyclists generaly only injure themselves, but truck crashes injure others, I believe that makes trucks much more dangerous. They should therefore pay much more.
    I second that.
    Someone should have a good rant at ltsa. Im not going to do it because my last dealings with them were so un-productive. Maybe thats just because im a "stupid kid", hopefully whoever dose has better luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coyote View Post
    But most trucks are owned by a business, and the government is already taking way way more money than they should from investors.

    I say we should remove all acc tax from trucks and let motorcyclists pay.
    Well I guess Truck Firms pay ACC anyway plus they contribute to roads via RUC.....in the UK you pay Road Tax and it just varies according to what the vehicle is..motorbikes are lowest up to Trucks which are higher plus National Insurance is paid by all employees so really it is not so bad here

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    So from this data we can see that trucks are more dangerous than bikes. So why do they pay lower ACC charges?

    And from this statement your showing a lack of understanding and tolerance towards other users....Think about it, of that 21% how many of the motorcyclists have come around the corner on the wrong side of the road., and who says over all that trucks pay a lower acc levy?.....it may be lower for the truck but when you factor in every other tax and insurance levy thats out there , transport operators pay huge dividends to the coffers.

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