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[spudchucka]

Read my reply to spudchucka.

it would depend which neighbour...

As for getting burgled, I certainly won't have any expectation of the police actually doing anything constructive about it, such as apprehending the offender or returning my stolen property...

Even just taking a report is constructive police work because it helps build a picture of the offenders MO. Then when a burglar is caught, historic burg complaints are examined and the offender is interviewed about other jobs that match his MO. I've seen burglars confess to 20 - 30 historic burgs after being apprehended. You get to know how they operate and you can be at a job and think, "this looks like so & so's work", go back check their MO, next thing you have a very good suspect.

So what you might think is unconstructive might actually be very good basic police work. Bare in mind that the best way to catch burglars is in the act but sadly most burglaries are reported historicly so it takes a lot of work to nail the pricks. The chances of getting property back is allways slim because the black market is very fast moving and thieves always look to move hot property quickly.

[badlieutenant]

Hey, one from left field: IF as the nay sayers keep tellling us speed has nothing to do with road safety how come bicycles do not feature so much in general loss of control crashes resulting in serious injury/death?

They are less visible than motorbikes and the riders wear less protective gear, they also rarely high/low-side either.


Their one MAJOR difference is the speed they travel.

Comments?

and thier mass

[scumdog]

and thier mass

Going by discussions on another thread ("Leather") I would say it's more the riders mass!!

Still, mass + speed =?

And bikes are less visual/audible to motorists.



Hasty edit: naked arse!! that was my 1,000 post!! where did I get the time!!

[MikeL]

what you might think is unconstructive might actually be very good basic police work.

I agree, and it would be good to think that the time taken to assist the police in writing up a report will be well spent. But for most people living in a metropolitan centre like Auckland, I imagine that calling the police out to the aftermath of a burglary is just a tedious formality necessary for making an insurance claim...
With little likelihood of recovering their property, or the satisfaction of seeing the offender caught and sentenced, what is in it for the victim? We repress our outrage, pay our inflated insurance premiums, shrug our shoulders and try to get on with life. Is it any surprise that the altruism and concern for community of a generation ago has been replaced with selfishness and cynicism when our perception is that the police are far more interested (or better resourced - it makes no difference) in the easy work of enforcing speed limits than the much harder job of safeguarding people's lives and property?

[magnum]

about 10 days ago saw 3 highway patrols on the karapiro straights and a camera van[red] at the top by the antiques shop,wtf farkin homos.

[scumdog]

about 10 days ago saw 3 highway patrols on the karapiro straights and a camera van[red] at the top by the antiques shop,wtf farkin homos.

Sheeeit! you saw 3 hi-way patrols, a red camera van AND farkin homos? you would think they would at least get a motel :spudwhat:

[badlieutenant]

Sheeeit! you saw 3 hi-way patrols, a red camera van AND farkin homos? you would think they would at least get a motel :spudwhat:

sounds like a porn setup, guys in uniform met farkin homos and get it on, camera records all :cool2:

[spudchucka]

I agree, and it would be good to think that the time taken to assist the police in writing up a report will be well spent. But for most people living in a metropolitan centre like Auckland, I imagine that calling the police out to the aftermath of a burglary is just a tedious formality necessary for making an insurance claim...

Auckland is certainly a special case and the time delays that you here about are shameful. Its just part of a wider problem, cops can't take burglary complaints when they are refereeing domestics all day and night. The recruitment rate can't keep up with the attrition rate and all the administration can do is plug holes by importing poms and dragging cops away from other districts to help out when things are really bad.

As Scumdog has pointed out, the cost involved in the annual road carnage are humongus. The Govt is going to keep on pouring resources into that area regardless of how much the public complains about it. So the only thing people can really do to bring the balance back is to push for better a funded and resourced general duties branch of the police.

[sheight]

i got pulled over a while back now, i was turning left onto a street that had four lanes, two going either way, anyhow i cruise up to the corner and only look right for oncomming cars there were none i started to nail it straight into the lane closest to the center (right hand lane) then i saw the copper on the side of the road. gutted . i then had to wait at a red traffic light with the police behind me with lights flashing telling me to " PULL OVER " and going the other way was another copper stopped at the red light watching alone with every one else lol! anyway. i thought he pulled me over for nailing it, i didnt know, but anyway i was nice and poliet and he gave me a ticket for not keeping left. appaerntly when you turn onto a two laned street you stay in the left lane. then he told me how to get off it?! he said if i worte in, you would get off. and i did what he said and i did! crazy! anyway pretty funny. why you gimme the ticket in the first place!?!?!? i never said that tho..

[Blakamin]

why you gimme the ticket in the first place!?!?!? i never said that tho..

No disrespect, spud... but "quota" springs to mind....

[rodgerd]

The chances of getting property back is allways slim because the black market is very fast moving and thieves always look to move hot property quickly.

I've not done too badly there. Got a digital camera back, complete with pics of the crooks, and an amp and DVD player from a different burglary. Cunts got away with a ring my wife bought me, though.

[Stevo]

Back to stories without gripes and grizzles - like Marty wanted.
When I was in my teens my mate and I were coming through Blenheim one night at 130am, and I carelessly get pulled up by a typically dopey Marlborough cop (Ya know the ones that ticket elderly men for driving to slowly with their elderly wife suffering abdominal pains in the passenger seat!!!!).........
So we get the lights and sirens and drama cos I was doing above the speed limit through an industrial zone at 130am. I pull up and hop outta the ute and the cop questions me (as he is entitled to) but asks me everything twice. "Did I pull you up the other day?" (My first ever time for being pulled up), No, "Are you sure?", Yes, "Have you been drinking?", No, "Are you sure?", Yes, (Dumbass), "Do you have your license on you?", No, "Are you sure?", Yes, (WTF do you keep asking THAT!!!), "Have you been out rabbit shooting?" (hmmmm - Gee did all the rabbits and blood scattered across the deck of the truck give it away???? - Dumbass), Yes, "Ok, I want to inspected your weapons to check they are not loaded", Ok.................... Checks warrant, mileage, rego, while mate and I get the rifle and shotty out from behind the seat. He checks them, clears us and we get to go with a warning! Woohoo!!!!!

Talk about stupid!! At least all the cops who have pulled me up since have a few more braincells than this guy - even if they weren't all quite at generous as him. Nevermind. That was my first ever encouter with Policeman Smurf

[spudchucka]

No disrespect, spud... but "quota" springs to mind....

I suppose it does a bit. I can't comment for how other cops think but to me I deal with situations as I find them, if someone gets a ticket its because an offence was disclosed and there was good reason in my mind to issue a ticket. If the person ends up getting off for any reason it makes no difference to me because I know i did my job at the time. I always tell people to write to the bureau if they have any problems with any aspect of why they were given a ticket.

As for the "quota", I'll let you know what I did in the last year. I can't remember the exact figures so these are approximates.

340ish traffic tickets
14 drink drivers processed
70 something arrests.

Now 340 tickets might sound a lot to some people but if you worked it out on a daily average it would be lucky to be 2 - 3 per day. Not quite the "quota" of 2 per hour or whatever its supposed to be.

By the way I've recently spoken to a few HP cops I know and they tell me that they are expected to pick up 1 traffic ticket per hour. Not that hard when all you are doing is patrolling the highways. Their primary function is to provide a deterent to motorists by being mobile and visible. 1 ticket per hour over a nine hour shift = 9 tickets per day. Take off a bit off time here and there that gets written off for admin and the like and they probably only "need" to issue abou 6 - 7 tickets per day, too easy.

[spudchucka]

Talk about stupid!! At least all the cops who have pulled me up since have a few more braincells than this guy - even if they weren't all quite at generous as him. Nevermind. That was my first ever encouter with Policeman Smurf

Usually people moan about cops for not warning them. You get a warning and moan because the cop asks you questions. Maybe you're just a moaner?

[Jackrat]

i got pulled over a while back now, i was turning left onto a street that had four lanes, two going either way, anyhow i cruise up to the corner and only look right for oncomming cars there were none i started to nail it straight into the lane closest to the center (right hand lane) then i saw the copper on the side of the road. gutted . i then had to wait at a red traffic light with the police behind me with lights flashing telling me to " PULL OVER " and going the other way was another copper stopped at the red light watching alone with every one else lol! anyway. i thought he pulled me over for nailing it, i didnt know, but anyway i was nice and poliet and he gave me a ticket for not keeping left. appaerntly when you turn onto a two laned street you stay in the left lane. then he told me how to get off it?! he said if i worte in, you would get off. and i did what he said and i did! crazy! anyway pretty funny. why you gimme the ticket in the first place!?!?!? i never said that tho..

LOL,mate come to AK an you'll find most folks up here don't know about that either.Hey it's highlighted clearly in the road code but people still don't get it.
Errrr,Spuds comments about ticket numbers is probably very correct too.
I often sit in my truck watching traffic,to a cop it must be like apples in a barrel.Watching a cop at a stop sign a few days back an in the time it took him to write up one fail to stop another 3-4 did the same thing while watching said copper.On the southern motorway,possibly more than 50% of motorists are speeding.I reckon a cop could keep the boss happy and never move from one spot.The nutters just keep coming,Amazing.
BTW I'm one of six drivers working for the same Co',we each tow an average of eight cars a day six days a week.Most of em, crashed,always somebody elses fault