Hmmmmm......CIAO

[vifferman]

He was more talk than action before you were on here, too. It was *worse* when he had a bike.

So he did actually have a bike, once?

Funnily enough his most recent bin was (he said) at lowish speed. In which case, it was no more than karmic balance in action.

Them Pharking Biker Gods at it again!

[Dodgyiti]

Hmmmm,I think so - you don't see many with reports of them binning an older bike,but then not as many here ride older bikes.I think a modern bike lulls a rider into a false sence of security,or skill level - they just can't reach the limit of these bikes and so have no idea where it is...until they do of course,then we hear about it.On an older bike the limit is found earlier,you know where it is and how fast you can go at all times.I ride with tyres most would consider unsafe for the road,but I know what's happening with my tyres,the limits within easy reach for me.

Plus newer bikes are much eaiser to ride fast, more user friendly, and it's harder to tell how fast you are going when it's not screaming it's guts out, or making a godawful racket.
Having just learnt all this from the purchase of the CBR, but lucky for years of experience. I would hate to think I could have bought something like the CBR after getting my learners,and at that tender [ stupid] age I would probably be dead by now

[jrandom]

So he did actually have a bike, once?

He had a VTR like yours, then he bought an R1. Then he crashed for the whatever-th time and his doctor did the enforced license removal on medical advice thing for a year.

I dunno about you, but if that was me, I'd find it slightly embarrassing...

Certainly the 'riding god' type posts rather dried up after that.

[6Chris6]

I've had a sex change, and am now a little girl!!

Whatever rocks your boat dude.

[Shade]

I dont understand why everyone gets freaked when people bin. Your the one in control of your own bike, not them. So if you come off, its your fault. No one elses.

The only exception is traffic, but all of the bins so far if i recall correctly, have been lowsides etc. Rider error.

[bluninja]

I dont understand why everyone gets freaked when people bin. Your the one in control of your own bike, not them. So if you come off, its your fault. No one elses.

The only exception is traffic, but all of the bins so far if i recall correctly, have been lowsides etc. Rider error.

The thing that freaks people out is the self fullfilling prophecy aspect.....bikes are dangerous and riders get badly injured and killed no matter how skilled they are.....you start seeing stories of friends and people you know (and with good riding skills) having a crash and it just maintains or strengthens that idea in your head, and in the people around you who then worry that you might get hurt. Then your heads not right when you ride and you start to subconsciously think 'when will I crash?'

[White trash]

As someone who is in the position where I am nigh on the point where another road bike is plausible - I am fast reconsidering this decision.

Lately - I have taken the leisure of reading - but not posting on the forum. I notice a vast increase in the number of near misses, hits and crashes in the last 2 weeks or so (and going back further)

Now whilst I can put some of this down to summer-itus (the brain fade caused by one sunny day among weeks of rain) - it is concerning none the less.

I am now seeing riders who are somewhat saner/safer/cautious than myself binning - and I beginning to wonder about the prudency of my buying another road bike and testing the surgeons work on my ankle and shoulder reconstructions so soon.

Take Zed for example - who only a mere 7 months ago was chargrinning me for the very thing he did this weekend (practising and preaching come to mind). And he has the HOLIEST of pillion passengers

I think I am going to quit while I am ahead (and still have one) and not tempt luck in to proving me right. Whilst I enjoy pushing my limits, not knowing when to stop and the high price you pay isn't worth it.

Loved it too death while I did it - time to go an experience/enjoy new things (and knowing me - no less stupid!)

Thanks everyone (esp those who have binned) in helping me make the decision - hope the wounds heal and the bikes get repaired.

(for those who wish to email me as pm has been stopped - wkid_one@xtra.co.nz)

Wkid has left the building ie - won't be reading replies~~~~

Blouse.

I ride faster than all these guys too, but I'm not giving up because they have had a couple of bins.

Get over it! If you're not sensible enough to ride within your limits, you shouldn't have been riding in the first place.

[Motu]

He did 205 mph too....didn't he?????

[riffer]

He did 205 mph too....didn't he?????

No I distinctly recall it was only 299 km/hr

[Posh Tourer :P]

That and while you might be in control of your bike, and it is your fault if you bin, some people dont want to ride on a KB ride if they "know" there will likely be a bin..

[Yokai]

That and while you might be in control of your bike, and it is your fault if you bin, some people dont want to ride on a KB ride if they "know" there will likely be a bin..

Yeah - Bin's happen. Friend of mine here at work had a bin 2 weeks back. Rainy - 15km/h - a little too close to the car in front what stopped suddenly. Hit a patch of slick white paint with oil on it on the back wheel and dropped the bike on her knee.

Am I stopping riding? Nope. I have made a pact that I will probably stop if/when I have a major off ... i.e. a non-walkaway bin... But I like to travel at my own comfort level, and really am not fussed about speed.

Bins happen. It's a mental attitude - are you
a) willing to take responsibility for your own riding
b) willing to learn from others' mistakes as well as your own
c) willing to calculate the cost/benefits well

For my part,
a) I want to ride with KB, but like the slower pace, so I'm happy to meet up with people at the start and end of rides - if ppl want to ride at the lovely 70kph then fine, if they want to hoon off at 160 or whatever - then fine
b) I'm gonna look out for those corners that people bin on... thx for posting them
c) I didn't ride to work this morning... Auckland traffic, WET, Windy Dark... TOOOOOO many risks just to get 15 mins on the bike!


^^^^^^^
Just my 2cents...

Yo

[Hitcher]

My goodness! One goes away riding for two weeks and returns to learn that the Wicked One has departed these climes. 3,505 posts is a record that will stand for some time, I suspect. Quantity, with some interspersed quality.

[ManDownUnder]

Each to their own.

If this isn't a pisstake then - wkid.. good luck to ya man!

Losing the bike don't mean losing your friends though, there are some good people in here who'd like you to stay in touch (as I excpect you will).
MDU

[merv]

Goddamn even Rossi fell off in the weekend.

[ching_ching]

Loved it too death while I did it - time to go an experience/enjoy new things (and knowing me - no less stupid!)

So you ARE going to pursue your passion of building scale models out of ice block sticks... I knew the whole "not going to get another bike" bit was a front!