Club for incapacitated riders?

[Hitcher]

Now if there was a club for politically incorrect riders, I'd join that in a heartbeat...

Isn't that KB's primary purpose?

Now that we've got a faster server and have returned to the e-jet age, perhaps there will be more irreverence?

[peasea]

Isn't that KB's primary purpose?

Now that we've got a faster server and have returned to the e-jet age, perhaps there will be more irreverence?

Yup, and we'll be quick about it too.
Erm, you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny. (I'm told...)

[Hitcher]

Erm, you're ugly and your mother dresses you funny. (I'm told...)

Hardly politically incorrect. And you shouldn't believe everything my Mum tells you...

[inlinefour]

Isn't that KB's primary purpose?

Now that we've got a faster server and have returned to the e-jet age, perhaps there will be more irreverence?

But then came the infraction age. Those of little awareness of kiwi banter would decide that things are getting out of hand, even personal. Then came the "taking thread off topic" era and the political correctness took its foothold properly. I'd like to go back to the era of piss takes and a good laugh, but there appears to allways be someone who feels the need to get upset of what is posted or read into it another way. I say, bring back the sin bin. Back then if one was an arsewipe, then one knew it and it was generally used for the right reason.

Anyhow, as far as irreverence goes Hitcher, hows that?

[dogsnbikes]

my late brother would say "F__k off" as he said the biggest insult too him was being called disabled or other.........


my veiw is each too there own
incapacitated riders/people would perfer too be treat the same as able body people nothing more nothing less....just a lesson I learnt from my bro

[Hitcher]

Anyhow, as far as irreverence goes Hitcher, hows that?

I understand what you're saying, but most "difficulties" were caused by a few who didn't get the difference between humour, political incorrectness, general pisstaking, shit-stirring, good-natured banter and personal abuse or, even worse, bullying. Members should be able to come on here and enjoy themselves and feel able to freely participate. They shouldn't have to put up with unwarranted crap thrown at them. Moderators have drawn a line in the sand regarding acceptable behaviour and comment and we're prepared to enforce it.

We've had a few characters on here over the years, some of whom no longer choose to participate for their own reasons. We've had a few (for want of a better word) arseholes as well, who completely overstepped the mark on repeated occasions. A handful of these have been banned, others are still serving out infraction restrictions.

Kiwi Biker is not "just the internet". Most members are proud and fiercely protective of our "family" and there are plenty of instances where issues about behaviour and acceptable comment have been sorted by members without the need for Mods to intervene. That's how it should work, and it does most of the time.

Anyway, that was way too serious. Bring on the political incorrectness!

[Oakie]

Anyway, that was way too serious. Bring on the political incorrectness!

I'll start. Let's go and tell some boys that the idea of sport is to win, not just take part ... we'll smack their arses when they lose and then tell them not to cry because 'real men' don't show thier feelings. Then we can go and organise a KB midget throwing night. Oops ... Off Topic I go.

[kaz]

On my reading, this is not about an idea to treat disabled people differently from able-bodied people, "segregation", or adding to the considerable prejudice already faced by disabled people.

Couldn't it just be about finding support amongst those who experience injury and temporary or permanent disability?

That doesn't have to be achieved through a separate club. It could happen through a separate section of the forum - just as there are separate sections for all sorts of other things. And you wouldn't necessarily have to be disabled to post to it, but temporary or permanently disabled folks would take the lead on it...

Just trying to be constructive. Sorry if I've misunderstood anything.

[delusionz]

On my reading, this is not about an idea to treat disabled people differently from able-bodied people, "segregation", or adding to the considerable prejudice already faced by disabled people.

Couldn't it just be about finding support amongst those who experience injury and temporary or permanent disability?

That doesn't have to be achieved through a separate club. It could happen through a separate section of the forum - just as there are separate sections for all sorts of other things. And you wouldn't necessarily have to be disabled to post to it, but temporary or permanently disabled folks would take the lead on it...

Just trying to be constructive. Sorry if I've misunderstood anything.

thats exactly what i had in mind, i only said club because that was what the subsection was called... like club 250, i doubt theres actually an organisation called club 250 is there???

[slowlegs]

Hi delusionz, how are things now that you are back at home?

It seems like people have different interpretations of what you are proposing. Maybe it would help if you told us a bit about why you are suggesting it or what you're looking for.

I imagine you might be looking to share support and information with others who are, as you are now, unable to ride because of injury (or with people have gone through something similar at some point). That could be achieved in a number of different ways (a club or a section of the forum, etc...) But maybe I am misunderstanding you too...?

I think you have hit the nail on the head. I think more of an organisation of people who have experience of getting back onto bikes. I have seen some disabled bikers (and able bodied too) who, while they can ride cannot ride safely. I wouldn't want to go out with a whole group of people, able bodied or not who weren't up to scratch or fully in control of their machines as they would be putting the safety of the whole group at risk. Personally, I have a disability, since my accident I have wanted to achieve "normality" (not that I ever achieved it before though), perhaps anonymity is a better word and not be the centre of attention. It is sometimes hard. People stare and ask personal questions they wouldn't ask others and it is good to get away from that sort of thing. I feel a "special riders interest group" would be a good idea but a riders club would not really be for me, just a riders group who accepted disability as a fact of life for some. From most of the replies to disability questions in these forums and the nature and side effects of motorcycling, which can be and is dangerous I feel the motorcycle world has this and accepts disability already.