Cops that use bribery?

[Renegade]

Gotta disagree with ya there fella...

Stuff the stats, I am talking about what actually happened. Usually falling off a bend, losing control into oncoming traffic or at the end of a passing lane merging back into one... the HUGE skid marks in all of them say "speed is clearly a factor."

Simple really...

its true,measure the rubber marks and it equals to fast for whatever they were up to, otherwise they wouldnt have braked would they?

[Max Preload]

Usually falling off a bend, losing control into oncoming traffic or at the end of a passing lane merging back into one... the HUGE skid marks in all of them say "speed is clearly a factor."

Speed might be a factor (regardless of whether it's above of below the posted limit), but outright shit and inconsiderate driving is a much more heavily weighted factor in my driving experience.

In the merging passing lane scenario there are a number of issues... assholes who speed up for passing lanes despite having been driving at ridiculously low speeds for no apparent reason prior to them... people not pulling left immediately after passing... people using the entire passing lane to pass one vehicle... not checking for passing cars before pulling right to merge... basically being completely ignorant of the existance of everyone around them.

How many people do you know who button off immediately (not radically, just an easing of speed) when someone signals their intention to overtake them? I do - always. As far as I'm concerned the less distance it takes for them to overtake me, the safer I'll be because if they wreck doing it they'll be further away from me when it happens.

[Max Preload]

its true,measure the rubber marks and it equals to fast for whatever they were up to, otherwise they wouldnt have braked would they?

Or something completely unforseen occured. An oncoming car decided to overtake, someone pulled out of a driveway without looking etc.

[Renegade]

Or something completely unforseen occured. An oncoming car decided to overtake, someone pulled out of a driveway without looking etc.

length of skid marks get calculated into a speed in kph Vs road surface friction etc

[Sanx]

length of skid marks get calculated into a speed in kph Vs road surface friction etc

And how many modern cars actually skid in a straight line? You know, as opposed to stopping quickly with ABS preventing wheels from locking up and leaving big black marks.

[Renegade]

And how many modern cars actually skid in a straight line? You know, as opposed to stopping quickly with ABS preventing wheels from locking up and leaving big black marks.

leaves black hop marks where it locks and unlocks but yes it does shorten the braking distance however i thinkthere maybe a mathmatical equation to work it out, those serious crash guys have all the toys.

[scracha]

pulled for F****n speeding, there was no need for the interogation on dishing out dirt. In my eyes, if you get caught speeding, you get a ticket, and always a lecture on speeding an go on your merry (speed limit, or lower) way.

No offence but I think you're nuts. I totally agree with the coppers intentions and I'm glad he was able to use discretion (something I believed coppers over here weren't allowed to use) and let your old man off. I totally disagree that if you get caught speeding you should always get a ticket.

Admit it gypsy, this thread is just one big trollfest?

[davereid]

In the merging passing lane scenario there are a number of issues... assholes who speed up for passing lanes despite having been driving at ridiculously low speeds for no apparent reason prior to them...

Yep, happened to me yesterday on the passing lane between Sanson & Feilding.. moved into the right hand lane to pass a large but unladen truck, that had been doing 80km/hr.. was doing 140 by the end of the lane as the guy just kept on accelerating. Had a Holden behind me, so chose not to back off, but a very irritating event.

[Max Preload]

Yep, happened to me yesterday on the passing lane between Sanson & Feilding..

It's like a NZ cultural thing - so many people just hate the thought of being passed!

There was a clown in a Jag doing exactly this a few years ago between Auckland and Hamilton (before the expressway). I was on my VF1000R and was in no hurry so I followed him at a fair distance for the amusement. After Taupiri I decided to catch him up so that when we arrived at the passing lane southbound into Ngaruawahia I was at a normal following distance and then gently accelerated to pass him. He accelerated. I accelerated some more. He accelerated some more. I think you know where this is going...

Long story short, by the end of the passing lane I had this prick, who'd been holding people up driving at 70-80km/h on single lane stretches of SH1 and then accelerating to about 120km/h in the passing lanes, doing just under the ton only to try and prevent me from passing!

Just before the end I nailed it and got in front of him then dawdled all the way to Hamilton in front of him. I hope his blood boiled.

[more_fasterer]

That comes as no surprise... I had it happen before, but with a mufti cop!

I was behind a silver maxima that was travelling at 80-90km/h on Sh1 between taupo & tokoroa on a beautiful waitangi day, got to the passing lane, accelerated to 110km/h and the prick accelerated to stay right beside me! So I accelerated to 120km/h and got in front of him... at which point he stuck his red & blues on, giving me a ticket for 121km/h. Bastard.

[mstriumph]

I too have always found it a little curious how the roads that are actually better and safer too 'speed' on get hammered. Like the speed camera van in the middle of the passing lane south of Maramarua on Friday.

----- that good surface - it's to sucker ya in baybeeeeee!!

[Max Preload]

----- that good surface - it's to sucker ya in baybeeeeee!!

Doesn't work though. I've only had one speed camera ticket, and that was between Cambridge and Hamilton in early '99 during the hidden camera period. I guess I'm just too observant for them...

[marty]

It's like a NZ cultural thing - so many people just hate the thought of being passed!

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actually, he was probably doing the sensible thing and using the bike as bait for a possible HP car around the corner.

speeding 101 - always have someone in your lane between you and the next oncoming car. (advice from someone who knows)

[Toaster]

My other half got pulled over for speeding on his soft tail last week. He was doing 147 km on back road on his way to work, (he assures me there was no other traffic on that long stretch of road!!) The cop told him that if he hadnt stopped he would have rammed him off the road. (Asshole) Well any way to cut a long story short, the cop said that if he could give him some dirt on any one he would lower his ticket to 130 km!!. My other half said "F**k mate, I,m a dad with 2 kids, Ive got my lunch on the back and Im on my way to work", the cop told him he would lower the ticket but had his number and would call him if he ever needed a favour!!!!!!!!!. I have a few mates in the piggy force an checked with them on this, according to them he was bloody lucky the ticket was lowered, and they thought maybe the cop had mistaken him for someone else. Im thankful his ticket was lowered but cant believe they can be so slimmy. I dont know any one who would dish out dirt (nark) on any one to get there ticket lowered.

Defend the ticket..... the speed the cop lowered it to cannot be upheald in Court as it was not the speed your partner was doing. Police have been told they were to cease that practice as it was clearly wrong to do so. Oh and he also has no right under the rules of pursuit etc to be able to run a bike off the road merely for a speed offence.

Given that he was asking for dirt I assume some MC connection there possibly? hmmm?

[Toaster]

That comes as no surprise... I had it happen before, but with a mufti cop!

I was behind a silver maxima that was travelling at 80-90km/h on Sh1 between taupo & tokoroa on a beautiful waitangi day, got to the passing lane, accelerated to 110km/h and the prick accelerated to stay right beside me! So I accelerated to 120km/h and got in front of him... at which point he stuck his red & blues on, giving me a ticket for 121km/h. Bastard.

So he was exceeding the speed limit prior to activating the red and blue lights? Again a breach of policy for urgent duty driving tisk tisk. 'Baiting' could possibly work as a defence.