Attitude readjustment

[avgas]

So OK, who is that guy in the picture then! John.

Can't be me, i never get shitfaced

[oldrider]

Ahemmm..... last time i looked I didnt have boy bits (thank god)

C'mon, every girl knows that she can have as many boy bits as she wants, if she plays her cards right! John.

[Goblin]

Exactly...Since I have been on KB, I have made friends that I consider as close to me as family...

But are we making the mistake of thinking that this is just KB or is this customary of the whole Biker community??

The fact that we all happen to be bikers as well was just the common ground that got us all here in the first place...

It doesn't define solely who we are...

I feel it's the whole of the biking community. Example...on the way to the Kiwi I saw a bunch of bikes stopped on the side of the road so I slowed down to see if they were ok, got the thumbs up from them so carried on. Bit further down the road there were two scooters stopped so I did the same. I had no idea if they were KBers or not but they may have needed assistance. I would hope if I broke down miles from home that someone would stop and offer help too.

I consider myself a motorcyclist above all else in life...even above being a mum. I was biking long before kids came along and I will be long after they've left home.

[pritch]

Ok, how about just an habitual thief?

The "whatever" stands. To get too involved in an explanation of that would take the thread off-topic.

[Katman]

I also will stop and help out any motorcyclist stuck on the side of the road. Hell, I even wave or nod to all motorcyclists. However, I refuse to see motorcycling as some deep and mysterious "brotherhood".

[007XX]

C'mon, every girl knows that she can have as many boy bits as she wants, if she plays her cards right! John.

It just isn't quite the same though, is it?

I feel it's the whole of the biking community. Example...on the way to the Kiwi I saw a bunch of bikes stopped on the side of the road so I slowed down to see if they were ok, got the thumbs up from them so carried on. Bit further down the road there were two scooters stopped so I did the same. I had no idea if they were KBers or not but they may have needed assistance. I would hope if I broke down miles from home that someone would stop and offer help too.

I consider myself a motorcyclist above all else in life...even above being a mum. I was biking long before kids came along and I will be long after they've left home.

I agree with you wholeheartedly...thing is, I have been in a situation before where I did have problems with my bike, and another biker DIDN'T stop to help...

I was truly flabergasted, as I have come to expect the level of brotherhood you described, as I would offer it too...

So, there are bad eggs everywhere, and to go back to the initial question raised by this thread:

Do we, as bikers, need to stop thinking of ourselves as "a breed of our own", wih the whole world of cagers out there to get us... Hence a need for an attitude adjustment????

[zeocen]

I also will stop and help out any motorcyclist stuck on the side of the road. Hell, I even wave or nod to all motorcyclists. However, I refuse to see motorcycling as some deep and mysterious "brotherhood".

Someone's got no friends..

[discotex]

It's the whole "I don't know you from Adam but I'll stick by you because you're a biker" concept that I have a problem with. Would you really align yourself with a rapist simply because he rides a motorcycle?

Where did that come from? Talk about out of left field. I get what you're trying to point out but man what a way to make your point....

I've not seen one person on KB say (or imply) that they would stick by any biker no matter what. It's just a starting point mate. It's why you're on KB in the first place. Hell plenty make it clear they just want to do their own thing.

Other than the "dumb cager" comments here and there I have no idea where you get the idea that KB'ers are promoting an us-vs-them mentality.

[Katman]

The point I'm trying to make is, wtf does "above all else he's/she's a biker" mean? Does it mean that over and above the fact that he/she may be a total scumbag, he/she rides a motorbike and therefore should be seen and treated as a "brother/sister"?

[Hitcher]

Some people do care when they hear of a fellow biker dying or being seriously hurt. So what? Let people discuss it and pay their respects in whatever way they feel necessary. To interrupt what is for many an emotional discussion with what is effectively saying "who cares" is confrontational (and in the eyes of many disrespectful) and is simply asking to be attacked.

Perhaps emotionally charged threads aren't the place for reasoned and intelligent discussion. The idea that some one would try to attempt a reasoned and intelligent discussion in such a thread seems a little paradoxical to me.

"Time" and "place" are always subjective and relative. Just because some comment may have been made in the "wrong" place or at the "wrong" time should not diminish its validity. Or indeed subject its utterer to a tirade of rabid invective. Such behaviour is extremely childish, simplistic and uncalled for. No one person holds the patent on truth or righteousness. We should be able to debate things openly and without fear. The shallowness of some people troubles me at times.

[Joni]

The shallowness of some people troubles me at times.

I agree, and the insensitivity of some on here baffles me as well

[Albino]

blah blah blah.

[terbang]

Birds of a feather, flock together.
Motorcycles aren't for everyone but obviously some of us just love em. Like anything else of common interest, we tend to share a common kinship or bond with 'our kind' and look after our own. It is good to share and learn from others as well in a common interest. I am naturally more likely to gravitate toward a bunch of bikers or aviators than perhaps a lawn bowls club or a bunch of trekkies. Its not bikers against the world but rather bikers looking after each other. As I guess the trekkies do.

[terbang]

Hell yeah! First thing I would do is the Wooowoooo thing and wave it around to see if it feels as funny as it looks.

.

You'll also love taking a pee without having to strip off yer leathers.

[delusionz]

man, this thread just goes on and on and on. katman is a shit stirrer, this is exactly what he wants is to start some shit, get everybody uptight and start a bickering war between us, thats why i called for it to be frozen from the start.

for the record, "us bikers" is perfectly fine to say. it is 'us' because theres a common ground between us and thats motorcycles and thats kiwibiker. if you dont want to be part of 'us' then you shouldn't be here posting