Moped rider
I just sent this to Mr kirk....
I note your comment in the Dominion Post today that motorcyclists would rather hit the wire rope barrier than an oncoming truck. Perhaps this is true, but since the wire rope barrier will not stop an oncoming truck the motorcyclists on the road in question will now hit both.
I for one would rather take my chances with a car than the barrier.
Matthew
Any car will last you a lifetime, as long as you drive it fast enough
gypsy
cool one down.. how many more have the gall to send coments?Originally Posted by mdooher
what a ride so far!!!!
Registered User
What's his email address? He's not helping us and I'd like to point that out to him.
Moped rider
...apparently
Any car will last you a lifetime, as long as you drive it fast enough
Moped rider
Fuck....... you really have to check out this site http://www.graphologyguru.com/Tree_results.htm This really is the same Allan Kirk, check out the email at the bottom of the page.
Any car will last you a lifetime, as long as you drive it fast enough
Yarrrrr
Same guy?! A tree and handwriting analyst, AND a motorcycle safety consultant in his spare time. I was going to email Greer McDonald, author of the article, for credentials of their 'expert', but after finding the links below, think I'll email Kirk direct.
edit:
Yep, it's the same guy:
http://www.megarider.com/nzmsc.html <-- same pic as on the tree site
http://www.capitalletters.co.nz/Motorcycle.html <-- He's written a few books
Just `Winging Along
He is the man behind www.megarider.com and has been involved in motorcycle safety issues for years.
I have to disagree with his "acceptance" of the wire rope barriers though.
Keep the shiny side upright, Rhino.
Moped rider
I just got a reply to my email to Allan Kirk, Hey I'll give him his due at least he responded. (From his personal email as well) He said that in 2005 the wire rope barrier stopped a truck crossing the centre line into the path of 2 bikes and 3 cars.... Doesn't say how far away the vehicles were from each other etc.... perhaps we should send him links to real overseas research, who knows we might change his mind on the subject
Any car will last you a lifetime, as long as you drive it fast enough
Forum whore
Set a date. Bikers block the road. I'll show up with my generator and metal cut off saw, and in 20 minutes the danger will be gone.
David must play fair with the other kids, even the idiots.
"channellling the Pleideans"
Rick Barker is a motorbike rider: he has or did have a Triumph Rocket 3 (the behemoth one, not the old cool one)
http://www.parliament.nz/en-NZ/MPP/M...arker-Rick.htm
unfortunately Annette King is presently Minister of Transport. Because she is also food safety, she is too busy eating all the frigging pies to give a shit about cheesecutter barriers in Wellingtron.
a better bet might be Harry Duynhoven who is minister of transport safety.... its down to him this shit happens. He gets the big bucks, he ought to take some shit. He also might be something of a kindred spirit though:election year next year so theyll be even more twitchy about bad publicity, the fuckers.
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
"channellling the Pleideans"
I went to a motorcycle riding course he organised in Wellington years ago (1983?).. so he has been around for years... he was very much the "organiser" type back then,
I concur with your second point
I thought elections were decided by angry posts on social media. - F5 Dave
Registered User
I've had a response from Allan Kirk. He says he "has laid a complaint with the Chief Editor over the editing of his comments in that article."
I guess a reporter or editor has their own agenda...
fükengrüven
I reckon the barriers up the middle of the centennial hwy are a lost battle, I don't like 'em either but any other barrier would cost millions more.
I think motorcyclists should direct their energy against the wire rope barriers that are appearing on the sides of roads, & down the middle of really wide roads like SH1 south of Auckland, they're only saving a few $K there, at a great risk to us. If that shit starts popping up around here, I'll be standing next to Dave with my generator & cutoff disc - it's amazing what you can get away with if you wear a hi-viz vest
Cheers
Clint
Forum whore
What you and others don't seem to understand,my friend,is that if the space between lanes is so restricted that only a wire will fit,then the wire rope barrier is the last type of barrier that should be installed.I reckon the barriers up the middle of the centennial hwy are a lost battle, I don't like 'em either but any other barrier would cost millions more.
I think motorcyclists should direct their energy against the wire rope barriers that are appearing on the sides of roads, & down the middle of really wide roads like SH1 south of Auckland, they're only saving a few $K there, at a great risk to us. If that shit starts popping up around here, I'll be standing next to Dave with my generator & cutoff disc - it's amazing what you can get away with if you wear a hi-viz vest
Cheers
Clint
To prevent vehicles from intruding into the opposing lane,the WRB needs to be installed 3 metres from the lane to allow for the stretch as the vehicle deflects it.
That is 6 metres between lanes.
Anything less and a WRB is not a functional barrier.
They are not magic fucking force fields from Star Trek
PS Motorcyclists should direct all their energy against WRB's - with the exception of their kinetic energy
small cylinder, big rev!!!
Is this available in the online edition? I don't have access to the print edition at work in Auckland.
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