I'd rather be thinking
It's always an important and liberating moment when as a teenager you realize for the first time that the superior knowledge, competence, and moral behaviour of those in authority (i.e. parents, teachers, in fact all adults) is just a facade...Originally Posted by F5 Dave
at 15/16 I was brought up to respect elders & thought an instructor would be some sort of expert.
Age is too high a price to pay for maturity
No8 Wire Extraordinaire
Sure is, however I still respect people who have obvious skill I can learn from. Even if I dont like them as people. The Bike school I went to taught me heaps & had a lasting impression on me. The main guy was very hard for people to get on with & he rubbed many up very badly, including the instructors. Sure knew his stuff though & was always nice enough to me.
Later when I was helping teach people to ride I was surprised at the occasional clown who thought they knew everything & believed they were great riders when clearly they were not. Typically young males full of themselves & getting by on confidence alone.
They gained nothing from the tuition & were just there to shorten their restricted period.
Don't you look at my accountant.
He's the only one I've got.
Hardcore Biker
I think councils should be liable for the conditions of some of thier roads!!
Just recently Ive been thru some parts out back of puke (in the rain of course) and some of the shiny "replacement" seal is so bad that even in a straight line both my tyres are sliding. nor is it marked. My first accident on a bike was because the local council failed to mark new seal with small chip laid down but not swept. My mate up north recently pulled over to tell some road workers to put more signs up because the repairs they were doing were dangerous and not marked properly. They didnt and there was an accident and a death because of it that night. sorry a little of topic.
dont break your cake
Immature and proud of it.
Not quite, you don't have the option to postpone your test, unless you wish to pay twice. Spud wouldn't have done many tests.Yes, and as unpleasant as it may feel for you at the moment, everything he said was entirely correct.
That doesn't change the fact that your testing officer was mean and, arguably, unreasonable. But Spud didn't say anything indefensible.
We're all instinctively handing out sympathy here (and you certainly have mine) but don't bag someone for adding balance to the discussion.
In any case, well done on getting the license in the end.
The tester was a dick.
Immature and proud of it.
What gave him away.
The avatar? Shurely not!
Immature and proud of it.
Like so many things, standards have slipped in driver testing. When the AA got the contract to test in the northern half of the NI, they also did their own training with a cursory check by the LTSA at the end of the course.Although even one of their trainers had to have three attempts at gaining approval of his full licence test route. The course itself was less than a week. Applicants did not even have to have any history in driver training, testing or much to do with cars at all.
Add the fact that it was a commercial operation and testers were 'encouraged' not to be too strict for fear of upsetting 'clients' and you have the standard of drivers we blessed with today. Our 1st time pass rate is the fail rate in Holland, 75% to 80%.
For instance, full licence test were scheduled so that the 100 km/h section was carried out in peak traffic. Not a good test of higher speed competency I'd say.
I think testing should be returned to the Police.
I'd rather be thinking
Except that the police would say that they have more important things to do...
Hey, here's a radical idea. Why not split the traffic enforcement section away from the police who could then be left to concentrate on fighting crime (properly resourced, of course). The new traffic enforcement agency could have full responsibility for road safety, licence testing, and so on, but they could, if they wished, delegate some of those responsibilities, such as licence testing, to local councils, which would charge appropriate fees reflecting the cost of the services, but without being required to make a profit. Private companies and organizations which are heavily involved in driver training would not be allowed to provide a licence testing service because of possible conflict of interest.
Meanwhile, the new road patrol officers would be fitted out in smart uniforms and vehicles that were distinguished from the regular police by a different colour - say, black and white instead of blue and white. Thus the general public, which will always complain about tickets and what they see as unreasonable enforcement of arbitrary speed limits, will direct all their petty anger and resentment at the chaps in black, leaving the boys in blue to bask in a new-found respect and admiration.
Such a brilliant idea. I wonder why nobody has thought of it already...??
Age is too high a price to pay for maturity
Immature and proud of it.
Ooooh MikeL, you are naughty.
And to take it a step further, local bodies could have their own traffic Departments.
Would we then see failed Pleece men then trying to become highly 'respected' Traffic Enforcement Officers?
This has just reminded me of the recent confrence of Parking Wardens. apparently they're sick of being bullied and viewed with disdain by the public. So they want the power to deal with other traffic offences (speeding) and want to operate speed cameras. That'll earn them respec'
I don't know what planet they're from, but I do know it's crowded.
BAD DOG!!
1. sitting HT licence, guy wanted me to back around a blind corner in a 22tonne stock truck, in a residential area not 200m away from a kindergarten, an argument then ensued "did you know theres a kindy there?" 'no, so what would you do if you missed your drop-off back up the road' "go around the block!" but what a guy in a 1/4 acre section is going to do with 200 lambs is beyond me!
2. mates story of having to do his car restricted with two cops, one teaching another how it's done, he had to do everything twice, once the right way, and once the wrong way so the student in the back seat could learn.
3. my basic handling skills test, guy yelling across the car park, left right left. do it coming back towards him, one point off for not following instructions, he wanted it from HIS perspective.
Der gummikuh man
IIRC he had a different avatar at tha point...
Queiro voya todo Europa con mi moto.... pero no tengo suficiente tiempo o dinero.....
Moped rider
Aww, I looked before, ya know? And theres this TONE thing? Like its your father catching you sneaking back into the house at 3am without your jeans?
Anyway, I bet hes cute.
H
Immature and proud of it.
Well he reckons he hasn't got a fat butt.
But would you want him to whisper sweet nothings like he's giving evidence?
Loud and Uncouth
Nope. If they're like me it was a desire to pick up warm body pieces after a violent death, the pleasure of informing people that a loved one ain't coming home no more, meeting drunk drivers for in-depth philosophical discussions on the advantages of drink-driving and a love of all-in wrestling with psychos that would do you in if the won..... and if you believe that then I have this really big bridge in Auckland that I want to sell you.....
Winding up drongos, foil hat wearers and over sensitive KBers for over 14,000 posts...........
" Life is not a rehearsal, it's as happy or miserable as you want to make it"
Hardcore Biker
hmm sounds like fun, how much for the bridge ?Nope. If they're like me it was a desire to pick up warm body pieces after a violent death, the pleasure of informing people that a loved one ain't coming home no more, meeting drunk drivers for in-depth philosophical discussions on the advantages of drink-driving and a love of all-in wrestling with psychos that would do you in if the won..... and if you believe that then I have this really big bridge in Auckland that I want to sell you.....
dont break your cake
Moped rider
After that life, anyone would indeed desire a warm body, the pleasure of philosophical discussions and the advantages of love, for its sheer humanness. I havent got a lot of time for anticop deals - they just seem like real people to me if suffering from the effects of spending their day inside society's colon. Im glad you wrestled well.Nope. If they're like me it was a desire to pick up warm body pieces after a violent death, the pleasure of informing people that a loved one ain't coming home no more, meeting drunk drivers for in-depth philosophical discussions on the advantages of drink-driving and a love of all-in wrestling with psychos that would do you in if the won..... and if you believe that then I have this really big bridge in Auckland that I want to sell you.....
Best piece of advice if stopped?: tell the truth. He/she might be so relieved to NOT be bullshitted for once you will get off. I do that and Ive seen the spreading smile just from knowing they finally heard the truth today. I like paying them that compliment. Its a warm world thing to do.
HanaBelle
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