Top road cop wants less fines, more demerits

**Grub** · 26th September 2007, 09:47

For those who have been bleating for years that cops only write tickets because its a revenue-grab. Suck it up.

NZPA | Wednesday, 26 September 2007

The top road policeman for the Southern region is calling for infringement fines to be reduced and the demerit point system beefed up.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4215494a11.html

**NZsarge** · 26th September 2007, 09:50

Originally Posted by Grub

For those who have been bleating for years that cops only write tickets because its a revenue-grab. Suck it up.

NZPA | Wednesday, 26 September 2007

The top road policeman for the Southern region is calling for infringement fines to be reduced and the demerit point system beefed up.

http://www.stuff.co.nz/4215494a11.html

time to buy a cruiser....

**Coldrider** · 26th September 2007, 10:36

So the fix for a problem is creating another problem.
Says young people can incur $1600 fines in a weekend, fine collecting too difficult due to the incentives of police to issue tickets.
So if lots more demerit points, then lots more disqualified licences on the road, how are they going to control that, with dimished income.
Rich people can afford fines, are we all suppose to be treated equal under the law.

**PirateJafa** · 26th September 2007, 12:34

Originally Posted by Grub

The top road policeman for the Southern region

Scumdog, what the heck do you think you are doin'?

**Hitcher** · 26th September 2007, 12:46

Originally Posted by Grub

The top road policeman for the Southern region is calling for infringement fines to be reduced and the demerit point system beefed up.

A guy that smart probably needs a map to find his arse. The Peter Principle at work. Sigh.

**Coldrider** · 26th September 2007, 13:13

Originally Posted by Hitcher

A guy that smart probably needs a map to find his arse. The Peter Principle at work. Sigh.

Yes, straight to the top as per Assistant Commissioner, probably get a slightly used red commodore SV6.

**The Pastor** · 26th September 2007, 13:29

I think our demerit system is tough enough to stand up on its own with no fines at all.

Shit i got 100 demerits with in a forghtnight - 1 speeding ticket and 2 "being on the 1000 on my R licnecen"

owies!

**BMW** · 26th September 2007, 19:04

Originally Posted by Coldrider

So the fix for a problem is creating another problem.
Says young people can incur $1600 fines in a weekend, fine collecting too difficult due to the incentives of police to issue tickets.
So if lots more demerit points, then lots more disqualified licences on the road, how are they going to control that, with dimished income.
Rich people can afford fines, are we all suppose to be treated equal under the law.

Agreed. there are enough people driving around with no REGO and WOF and licence at the moment.

Someone should look at why there are people owing so much! Not making more problems!!

**Max Preload** · 27th September 2007, 09:51

Hey! This isn't fair! I can afford to pay speeding tickets, but I can't afford to be without my license!

**tri boy** · 27th September 2007, 10:07

Raise the open road speed limit to 110kph. I think that may settle things a bit.
the habitual high speed demon drivers will continue to behave that way,(throw the book at them), but legislation should cut Joe public a bit of slack.
It's not the Rozza's fault, they're just doing what they're told.
My main concern is with the escalation of heavy axle weights on roads that can't cope with it. Road classing in relation to axle weights needs serious consideration due to the fact that heavy transport is expected to increase by %60 in 8-10 yrs, while rail is only expected to grow by %20.
A bit off topic, but safety wise, its relavent.

**vifferman** · 27th September 2007, 10:08

Reckon it is.

I was following a mufti Falcadore this morning, and it drove me mad. The numberplate was EAT506, and I SO wished I could write "Donuts" next to the plate.
Yeah, I know - it's not funny.

I'll just go back to work...

**rphenix** · 27th September 2007, 18:43

Originally Posted by tri boy

Raise the open road speed limit to 110kph. I think that road classing in relation to axle weights needs serious consideration due to the fact that heavy transport is expected to increase by %60 in 8-10 yrs, while rail is only expected to grow by %20.
A bit off topic, but safety wise, its relavent.

Hell yeah no offense to truckies but man they screw the roads up especially ones with a poor foundation (ie no limestone base).... Only gotta look at what the trucks do to the kai-mais etc.. after its rained heavily...

As for speed limits I always get annoyed at that speed kills yes it does but so does being a jerk driver certainly dont see enough people who are driving like tards getting pulled over, cars who drive in transit lanes with only one occupant, turn left into a two lane road on the right hand side, all those kind of rules nobody gets done for.

Maybe if they are so worried about people being able to afford 1600 dollar fines they should give that person some community work I dunno but raising the demerit points isnt the way especially while policy are on incentives/performance bonuses.

**Coldrider** · 28th September 2007, 09:44

I have a feeling that the transport industry pays it's fair share off taxes, RUCs, road distance users etc to build proper roads to accommmodate them.

However Transit NZ only gets budgets to build cheap shit roads, the transport levies going into the general consolidated fund, siphoned off for less productive expenditure. Ask a trucky how much he pays to various govt depts taxes etc.

**idb** · 28th September 2007, 13:09

Soooo...more people lose their licences and more people lost their jobs...
That's one way of forcing the wage rates down I suppose...the Business Roundtable should be well pleased with that proposal.

**Ocean1** · 28th September 2007, 13:46

Originally Posted by Coldrider

I have a feeling that the transport industry pays it's fair share off taxes, RUCs, road distance users etc to build proper roads to accommmodate them.

However Transit NZ only gets budgets to build cheap shit roads, the transport levies going into the general consolidated fund, siphoned off for less productive expenditure. Ask a trucky how much he pays to various govt depts taxes etc.

Largely correct. Used to know what percentage of fuel tax went to roading but I've forgotten. It ain't a lot.