Increase in violent crime is all good

[Usarka]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10467173

Heard this on the wireless last night and wet myself. cops and labour are claiming the increase in violent crime is a good thing because it means more people are reporting it rather than it's increasing.

i'm sure if it was down they would have patted themselves on the back and said they'd made the country safer. oh look they do:

"But then they say "There has been an actual reduction in recorded offences in seven of the 12 police districts, and police staff serving in those districts will feel specially proud of what they have achieved." "

[Coldrider]

The increase is in reported family violence.
It's the following trend of Kiwi's to DIY.

[caesius]

Typical response from Labour. It's irrelevant what they'd say if crime stats did in fact go down because the way our country's being run that ain't gonna happen any time soon.

[Wolf]

Fucking gummint spin doctors - will happily twist the figures to show themselves in the best light.

As far as "more is being reported goes" - suuuuuuure, that's why the street where I work has more gangs of youths with too much spare time and aggro attitude than there ever was before. That's why the cops have to have a permanent presence in our street now and I've seen violent incidents outside my work when I never used to.

Anyone wants to drag our political arsewipes from their ivory tower and tie them to a lamp post in Otara at midnight has my unconditional support - I'm sure they would see that there's a lot more to "report" these days.

[Finn]

Overall crime stats mean little for three reasons.

1. They treat every crime as equivalent - a murder the same as someone possessing cannabis

2. A small change in a very frequent crime can mask larger changes in less frequent and more serious crimes

3. Certain crime stats can go up or down in relation to how much effort the Police put into that area.

The stats to 30 June 2007 have violent crime up 4.4% and sexual crimes up 4.6%. This is not good news but understandable under a Labour Government. The Police Commissioner’s Office should focus more on reducing the crime rate rather than spinning more crime as good news.

The spin is that the increase in violent crimes come from more work on domestic violence. Well domestic violence tends to be minor assaults, so how did assaults increase in the last year:

* Minor assaults up 2.2%
* Serious assaults up 4.8%
* Grievous assaults up 10.0%

Speaks for itself.

[ManDownUnder]

The spin is that the increase in violent crimes come from more work on domestic violence. Well domestic violence tends to be minor assaults, so how did assaults increase in the last year:

* Minor assaults up 2.2%
* Serious assaults up 4.8%
* Grievous assaults up 10.0%

Speaks for itself.

* Attacks on taxi drivers by drunk bikers 0.1%

[The Stranger:Me]

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/...ectid=10467173

Heard this on the wireless last night and wet myself. cops and labour are claiming the increase in violent crime is a good thing because it means more people are reporting it rather than it's increasing.

How do they know that it is because more people are reporting it?
Do they keep stats on who did and didn't report it in the past?
Do they ask everyone who reports a crime if they would have previously?

[Coldrider]

How do they know that it is because more people are reporting it?

Because that was Annette kings answer on the TV1 news last night when Jon Key said crime had actually gone up 30% in Labours 8 years of office.
POLITICIANS DON"T LIE.

[Finn]

Because that was Annette kings answer on the TV1 news last night when Jon Key said crime had actually gone up 30% in Labours 8 years of office.
POLITICIANS DON"T LIE.

Does the 30% include all the criminal activity by Labour?

[Grahameeboy]

* Attacks on taxi drivers by drunk bikers 0.1%

Yeah, that's a whopping 100% increase on previous year.

And the stats for dog owners breaching licence conditions is staggering...

[Grahameeboy]

Does the 30% include all the criminal activity by Labour?

No cause those crimes are not officially reported........they are called 'Laws' aren't they??

[Finn]

Yeah, that's a whopping 100% increase on previous year.

And the stats for dog owners breaching licence conditions is staggering...

Not to mention the stretching of police resource in Devonport due to the significant increase in wheelchair theft.

[Grahameeboy]

Not to mention the stretching of police resource in Devonport due to the significant increase in wheelchair theft.

Exacterly.................this is a serious crime.........the advantage of wheelchairs are that they are not registered so easy for thieves to sell on the Blackmarket without raising suspicion.....and the great thing is that if caught in the act the owner cannot chase them

[crshbndct]

yeah
if the gevernment was a private corporation, most of the head honchos would be removed as dead wood

[crshbndct]

wouldnt hospital statistics be a better way to see if the percentage of crimes being reported matches the percentage of crimes being reported?

if hospitals are also reporting an increase in people coming after being beaten it kind of kills the cops idea that more crime is good