Robert Taylor and idleidolidyll's political debating thread

[Pussy]

How about a ''storming of the Bastille gates'' to have a big clean out and start again. Get rid of all the leaches at all levels sucking off the taxation gravy train and have a Government of common sense that rewards hard work and enterprise BUT also gives everyone a hand up and equal opportunity. Reverse our incessant decline in living standards ( for all arguable myriads of reasons ) Socialism is a failure as is unchecked capitalism and the free market. Get rid of all the labels.

AND, make sure the roads are kept rough while at the same time providing tax concessions for purchase of suspension upgrades....

I am kidding about some of the above.....

I'll happily fill the role of Henri Sanson for you, citizen Robert

[HDTboy]

I'll happily fill the role of Henri Sanson for you, citizen Robert

What a fag.

[idleidolidyll]

Okay, whats your perspective on Mugabes Zimbabwe? Will the Yanks not ''police'' that because theres no oil involved? ( Btw, that cynicism is directed at the yanks, not you )

Like other nations mongrelled by colonialism, Zimbabwe/Southern Rhodesia/South Zambezia (all it's names since the 1890's) needed a revolution so that it's people could take back what was stolen from them.
However, like other revolutionary leaders before him (Mao etc), Mugabe stayed too long and became corrupted by his own power. He changed from a hero into a ruthless dictator.

As I noted before; it's not the system per se but unchecked authoritarianism that is the real issue

And no, the Yanks have no interest in Zimbabwe and other similar cot cases because there is no commercial gain to be had.

[Grahameeboy]

Like other nations mongrelled by colonialism, Zimbabwe/Southern Rhodesia/South Zambezia (all it's names since the 1890's) needed a revolution so that it's people could take back what was stolen from them.
However, like other revolutionary leaders before him (Mao etc), Mugabe stayed too long and became corrupted by his own power. He changed from a hero into a ruthless dictator.

As I noted before; it's not the system per se but unchecked authoritarianism that is the real issue

And no, the Yanks have no interest in Zimbabwe and other similar cot cases because there is no commercial gain to be had.

The shame is that Zimbabwe is probably worse off than it was before colonisation........the Black man sometimes needs the white man.

The farmers provided much needed wealth for Zimbabwee and also provided a living / home for blacks, many of whom lost that during the uprising.

[idleidolidyll]

The White Man's Burden? (Rudyard Kipling; arch racist, look the term up.)

Good grief! That's a racist comment in so many ways! I suggest the Black peoples of the region would gladly turn back the clock to before the white man came and turned them into slaves, destroyed their cultures and placed them on the path to perpetual starvation and poverty.

[Pussy]

What a fag.

You know what Henri Sanson did during the Revolution???

[Robert Taylor]

Like other nations mongrelled by colonialism, Zimbabwe/Southern Rhodesia/South Zambezia (all it's names since the 1890's) needed a revolution so that it's people could take back what was stolen from them.
However, like other revolutionary leaders before him (Mao etc), Mugabe stayed too long and became corrupted by his own power. He changed from a hero into a ruthless dictator.

As I noted before; it's not the system per se but unchecked authoritarianism that is the real issue

And no, the Yanks have no interest in Zimbabwe and other similar cot cases because there is no commercial gain to be had.

Your answer has not dissapointed! I note that the two last sentences in your first paragraph would with a few name and gender changes be very familiar.....

[idleidolidyll]

hilarious!

did they infract you too Robert?

[Indiana_Jones]

Every super power is hated in it's hayday.

It's the cool thing to do.

People hate the Greeks,
People hate the Romans,
People hate the British,
People hate the Germans,
People hate the Americans,
And People hate the Chinese.

and so on and so forth.

-Indy

[idleidolidyll]

yes, and there's usually a perfectly valid reason to hate them.

killing millions of your fellow citizens for instance

[Indiana_Jones]

Well I donno who your fellow citizens are, but myself being English, I don't remember the Americans bombing me.

Well they might of shot at us during the Revolution, but we had that coming, and rightly got spanked!

-Indy

[idleidolidyll]

i also count the worlds huddled masses as my fellow man and when they are attacked vicously in the name of blood money, i am outraged and disgusted

and england has been a yank patsy for a long time now..............

[Indiana_Jones]

i also count the worlds huddled masses as my fellow man and when they are attacked vicously in the name of blood money, i am outraged and disgusted

and england has been a yank patsy for a long time now..............

I may not agree with what you say, but I'll fight to the death your right to say it.

-Indy

[Ewan Oozarmy]

and england has been a yank patsy for a long time now..............

Agreed. But the Americans were very helpfull during the early days of the Cold War - they drew a line across Europe and told the Russians "cross that and you're in trouble". The world could be very different now if they hadn't.

[The Stranger:Me]

i also count the worlds huddled masses as my fellow man and when they are attacked vicously in the name of blood money, i am outraged and disgusted

Being so outraged and disgusted, what action did you take?
Write letters to the editor?
Take up arms?
Send donations?
Moan on an Internet forum?