Robert Taylor and idleidolidyll's political debating thread

[idleidolidyll]

Read my post. Not energy resources (that is well underway) but basic human survival elements - food and water. These are wars to come.

yep, they don't need to be but greed will probably make them inevitable

[jrandom]

When is the dictator dyke going to extract her cranial appendage from the anal orrifices of those tree hugging, sandle wearing agitators, take a real look at the state of the country and deal openly and honestly with us, the people she is supposed to serve not rule?

She probably isn't.

John Key's recent statements seem to indicate that National would be all about more or less maintaining Labour's significant policy directions, while addressing the concerns about the Government currently having its head up its arse and ignoring the needs of the majority.

Time will tell. I do sometimes wish the Media (tm) would make it easier to determine what the fuck the pollies are actually saying and/or doing.

[mstriumph]

More people died in the firestorms (strategic placing of conventional bombs to create chimneys) than did the with 'little boy' & 'fatman' (i think they were called). it is just that nuclear bombs are so much more efficient.

interesting point
Dresden springs to mind

but i'm not sure i want to get into a debate on which type of bombing is the more humane ....

[scumdog]

As this is a political discussion thread I assume it is for all politics not just those of the USA.

If it is indeed as I suspect could someone kindly answer me this,


When is the dictator dyke going to extract her cranial appendage from the anal orrifices of those tree hugging, sandle wearing agitators, take a real look at the state of the country and deal openly and honestly with us, the people she is supposed to serve not rule?


Merde

Shuttup you fool - you'll ruin idleX3s distracting tactics and then we'll all notice how shite our own countries politicians really are...

[jrandom]

I just want to jump in here real quick...

Welcome to KB!

Bitch all you want; it won't change a thing.

That's pretty much what the barbarian hordes said as they burned the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire.

The times, they are a-changin'...

I'll leave y'all to it.

You must be Murkn. You said "y'all". Do you also have cowboy boots and a ten-gallon hat?

Cowboy boots are cool.

[Edit: Heh, you'd be Cam's flatmate, right?]

[The Stranger:Me]

I just want to jump in here real quick and say that I think it's cute when people who have probably never been to the US let alone lived in it feel the need to constantly put us down as if we're the entire source of all the world's ills.
Bitch all you want; it won't change a thing.

I'll leave y'all to it.

No no, moaning on the Internet changes everything.

[mstriumph]

I just want to jump in here real quick and say that I think it's cute when people who have probably never been to the US let alone lived in it feel the need to constantly put us down as if we're the entire source of all the world's ills.
Bitch all you want; it won't change a thing.

I'll leave y'all to it.

thanks i don't often get called 'cute' ....

but seriously, you are prolly right ---
unfortunately the thing to be REALLY disturbed by is that the people in YOUR country that bitch about it can't change anything either ---- and THEY get to vote over there .....

i could be wrong, but i think that's one of the concerns underpinning this thread

[Coldrider]

interesting point
Dresden springs to mind

but i'm not sure i want to get into a debate on which type of bombing is the more humane ....

No debate required, our 'homeland' was one of the the best at it.
If you say it often enough, bombing and killing are two different things.

[kelleyb]

Welcome to KB!



That's pretty much what the barbarian hordes said as they burned the remnants of the Holy Roman Empire.

The times, they are a-changin'...



You must be Murkn. You said "y'all". Do you also have cowboy boots and a ten-gallon hat?

Cowboy boots are cool.

[Edit: Heh, you'd be Cam's flatmate, right?]

1. Thanks for the welcome.
2. I'll guess we'll just have to wait and see what the future holds.
3. Nope no cowboy boots or hat. lol
4. Yep, I'm Cam's flatmate.

[mstriumph]

With all the greenies wanting to "save the planet" with biofuel crops replacing edible ones, there will be more wars to come.
Some for food resources.
Some for water resources.

"I know not with what weapons World War III will be fought, but World War IV will be fought with sticks and stones." .... Einstein

[BIGBOSSMAN]

interesting point
Dresden springs to mind

but i'm not sure i want to get into a debate on which type of bombing is the more humane ....

A bit off-topic, but here's a couple of photos of Dresden, my favourite German city (well, next to Berlin anyway)

[idleidolidyll]

........and to prevent the moderators ambushing interesting debate:

I declare this space open to ALL political discussion and even peripheral issues that might not at first seem connected..............

bang heads at will and please, DO expect angry responses

[kelleyb]

thanks i don't often get called 'cute' ....

but seriously, you are prolly right ---
unfortunately the thing to be REALLY disturbed by is that the people in YOUR country that bitch about it can't change anything either ---- and THEY get to vote over there .....

i could be wrong, but i think that's one of the concerns underpinning this thread

We elect our lawmakers, (Senators and Representatives) but it is up to them to write the laws and do the budgets and all those things. Party politics on both sides of the aisle make it hard to get a lot of things done.

[mstriumph]

We elect our lawmakers, (Senators and Representatives) ..................

and that's ANOTHER concern underpinning this debate methinks - the thought that the voting mechanism is not secure from tampering and that lawmakers come into power that the people did NOT elect ..............

[jrandom]

We elect our lawmakers, (Senators and Representatives) but it is up to them to write the laws and do the budgets and all those things.

I do think that the Murkn three-way split of the executive, legislature and judiciary is a good idea.

The more common structure of combining the executive and the legislature tends to give rise to the kind of issues that the NZ Labour party is currently coming under criticism for.