Motorcyclists: How many road laws do you break on your daily commute?

**A&R** · 10th October 2007, 21:42

new to NZ road rules and haven't got aroad bike yet.
however while on the subject of rules is it legal here to go between cars or pass to the right/left n the same lane ( is this what you call lanesplitting?) Its legal in the UK while undertaking is not they call it "filtering" over there.

**Mr Skid** · 10th October 2007, 22:01

Sometimes I don't give up my seat on the bus to old ladies.

**HDTboy** · 11th October 2007, 00:34

0, I'm a saint.

**Reckless** · 11th October 2007, 01:29

As many as I need, to to get where I'm going, as fast and as safely as I can, without getting caught.

I'm not talking major hooning here just general biker vs cage advantage.
You know! twice the power, 1/8 the size, front of the queue, first off the lights, pass the slow ones, stuff. Why else ride a bike???

In other words who gives a shit as long as I spot the cop first!

**R6_kid:Me** · 11th October 2007, 11:44

driving while disqualified (yeh right!), speeding, sometimes not indicating

**Griff** · 11th October 2007, 13:17

Originally Posted by A&R

new to NZ road rules and haven't got aroad bike yet.
however while on the subject of rules is it legal here to go between cars or pass to the right/left n the same lane ( is this what you call lanesplitting?) Its legal in the UK while undertaking is not they call it "filtering" over there.

Keep your indicators on and you are overtaking (parked cars).
No indicators = Lanesplitting.

Sometimes I would like a pillion on the back who's job is to count all the cars that I "Overtake" on a daily basis..... Then I have another Tui and the thought goes away.

Also, "Speeding" is relative to where you stand.
When I am on my bike I do not move, although the world does speed around me. (Sometimes at a tremendous rate of knots).
That's not the same as speeding ... is it???

**Max Preload** · 14th October 2007, 20:33

I speed at every opportunity, lane split on the left (where there's actually room), largely ignore red arrows when there is no opposing traffic and good visibility, but that's about it.

**Winter** · 16th October 2007, 23:51

I get :

Speed,
Excessive Acceleration
Not Stoping for stop sign
not stopping for traffic lights
over taking on double yellows
outside licensed hours
no L plate.
failing to report non-injury accident (me kicking in wing mirrors of killer cages)
leaving the scene of an accident.

That's probably about my morning commute.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 17th October 2007, 06:16

Originally Posted by Keystone19

Ok, just a little poll for interest's sake as I was reflecting on this on my way to work this morning.

How many road laws do you break on your daily commute?

none... because I walk to work every morning

but if I was riding, I am sure there would be a couple... ferk if I had to resit my license I would probably fail

**rphenix** · 17th October 2007, 22:09

Originally Posted by vifferman

But at least I'm not guilty of inattention, not knowing the road rules or being a tard, unlike most of the drivers on the road...

Yes there should be a rule against "tards" driving. Maybe some sort of "survivor" style voting system to get tards of the roads.

My favourite seems to be people who pull out in front of me from a parked position they obviously think bikes have magical abilities that cars dont because I know when I drive a cage myself I never have trouble like that (or at least as frequent).

**peasea** · 17th October 2007, 22:31

Originally Posted by rphenix

Yes there should be a rule against "tards" driving. Maybe some sort of "survivor" style voting system to get tards of the roads.

My favourite seems to be people who pull out in front of me from a parked position they obviously think bikes have magical abilities that cars dont because I know when I drive a cage myself I never have trouble like that (or at least as frequent).

Riding a motorcycle makes you a better car driver, no argument. Most car drivers don't seem to be able to determine how fast things can happen and pull out in front of other vehicles when there is not enough time/space to do so safely. As bikers are more vulnerable they tend to allow for wider margins, generally speaking. Sure, we all cut it fine here and there but I think (and I doubt I'm alone here) that experienced bikers have the ability to make good judgement calls for the most part. What might look like "a stupid move" to some retard in a car might very well be a calculated, safe manoeuvre from the rider's perspective.

Bikers are rarely on suicide missions, we all want to get home; how we go about it varies as much as personal perceptions but as a rule of thumb, if you hit the road thinking that everyone is out to kill you you're more likely to survive.