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    Quote Originally Posted by fireliv View Post
    Well I wouldnt risk it. Down here the cops will make sure you have a court appearance, and probably lose the bike.

    The other side of it is do you really think you know enough about riding to handle it? I mean just cos you can ride a scooter, you really think you could get away with a 500cc motorbike? If you think you can, then you so aint ready.

    Get a 250 sports bike, you'll be surprised at what you can find
    Which is wat I was going to do.
    fix 500 sell 4 bout $2000 or so and buy a 250cc bike or a 150cc 2 stroke or I could fix 500 and trade for a 250cc bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    And that is not doing anything stupid? Why risk $800 fine and 25 demerits and most likely a fine for exceeding 70km/h? As a bit of friendly advice, just be patient and learn to walk before you can run.
    Actually that would most likely be 50 demerit points since you're breaking two different license restrictions... Add that on top of whatever the fuzz pulled you over for to start with. (right?)

    Yeah - don't do stupid... But hey, it's your life you decide - just don't post a whiny thread when they grab your bike, license and life savings.

    Besides - I'm sure you would be able to find a 250 cc that would be fast enough... unless you're a complete speed nut in which case I'd recommend the drag strip or a race track.
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    if u want a bigger bike have a look at a hyosung 250 the same size as a 600 pick them up pretty cheap. In 2 weeks last year i clicked up about 2 g in fines and just maneged to keep my licence
    its not illegal if no one seen it

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamh View Post
    I saw them aswell and avoided it lol (not drive straight thru and lol) just didn't turn into the street.

    I was not actually gonna ride it just wanted peoples opinion on if the cops are slack enough to not notice a tall 15yr old on a big 500cc bike lol.
    This is not always going to be an option - then what will you do? Panic and run? Lol indeed.

    The cops pulled me over last week for NOTHING, and I have been 20 yrs without a speeding fine, never lost a point, am armoured to the wazoo and ride safely. Cop checked over licence and rego; even though he said there was no reason for having pulled me over I didn't bait him (as there was nothing he could find).

    I know this is not the 'cool' thing to say, but at 15 I doubt you should be on the roads at all, let alone trying to sneak up to a 'big' bike just because you may not get caught.
    I was legally on the roads at 15 too on a 50cc, and a bigger bike would, in retrospect, have been my undoing. You have the luxury of getting an RG150 (one on TM at the mo for just over $1200) which can crack 180kph or a 250 bike. Why would you jeopardise riding those legally for getting on a bike that you will not be able to handle.

    And note that every young buck that has come along on KB saying "I can handle the big rides" straight away against advice they have been back within months having dropped it, lost their licences or worse. You may be different. But the odds are against you.

    Stick with the law. You'll enjoy riding more. And when you get a big bike you'll have earned it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Toaster View Post
    And that is not doing anything stupid? Why risk $800 fine and 25 demerits and most likely a fine for exceeding 70km/h? As a bit of friendly advice, just be patient and learn to walk before you can run.
    Might as well ride at 110km/h with a pillion after 10pm to throw them off the scent eh!

    I don't see the point in rushing to a bigger bike but if you're stupid enough to try there is one bike you might pull this off with. It'd be the Hyosung GTR650. Just get some 250 decals and you can't tell them apart without checking the rego

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikkel View Post
    Actually that would most likely be 50 demerit points since you're breaking two different license restrictions... Add that on top of whatever the fuzz pulled you over for to start with. (right?)
    Only the first offence demerits are counted per ION (event).

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    Remember - its not just the cops and fines that you have to worry about.

    Its pretty easy to have a run in with a car - and there are a lot of cars out there that are worth a lot of money and that are very expensive to fix if you have no insurance.

    I had a friend do 7.5k's worth of damage to a VW Tougrag only a few months ago and you could hardly see the damage (personally I would have left it - but if you are in the wrong, un licenced and uninsured Im guessing that you will be paying for it a long time).

    Not worth the risk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90s View Post
    The cops pulled me over last week for NOTHING, and I have been 20 yrs without a speeding fine, never lost a point, am armoured to the wazoo and ride safely. Cop checked over licence and rego; even though he said there was no reason for having pulled me over I didn't bait him (as there was nothing he could find).
    Huh.
    I've been riding since 1974ish, and I've been pulled over only once for a licence check. Every other time I've been pulled over it's been for speeding (4 times: 1975 x2, 2003, 2007), apart from in 1977 when I had no mirror on my bike (blardy thing vibrated too much to see anything) when they'd just changed the legal requirements. If you don't ride like a dick (or even if you do, as I almost always do), you're pretty much OK.
    My last speeding ticket (73 in a 50) was only because it was after donut+coffee time. I almost NEVER see cops at my usual commuting time, but was 90 minutes late that day, so there were a few about. Lunchtime seems to be the worst - I saw about 15 in Albany one day last week. Must've been a MassDonutForagingExpedition.
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    It's your choice, and any problems that you have are yours also. That's it.

    What's wrong with riding a 250 anyway?

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    I'm not saying i'm gonna do it, and i'm not asking wat the punishment will be if I get pulled over for doing it either, what I want to know is if u think a cop will recognise a 6'2 boy on a 500cc bike, and if they would realise its 500cc if its got an L plate on it.

    I'm only asking because I can get a 500cc bike cheap and I will have to keep it for a couple of weeks so I can sell it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamh View Post
    I'm not saying i'm gonna do it, and i'm not asking wat the punishment will be if I get pulled over for doing it either, what I want to know is if u think a cop will recognise a 6'2 boy on a 500cc bike, and if they would realise its 500cc if its got an L plate on it.

    I'm only asking because I can get a 500cc bike cheap and I will have to keep it for a couple of weeks so I can sell it.
    A couple of weeks?
    Unless the cops around TowPaw know/recognise you, I reckon you'd be relatively safe either not attaching the L-plate (unless you ride in such a Nooboid fashion that it's obvious you're a noob) or attaching it and risking them not pulling you over. The second is the LEAST safe option, as the BigYellerL is like a giant "Kick Me!" sign, or a homing beacon for weirdos/cops (or weirdo cops).
    Plus you run the added risk of all those dickheads on the road for whom the "L" is like a red rag to a bull.
    Except we all know bulls are colourblind, and that urban myth comes from the fact that in bullfights pulls are tormented by picadors, and will attack anything flapped in their faces; capes just happen to be red (or grey to a bull).
    ... and that's what I think.

    Or summat.


    Or maybe not...

    Dunno really....


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    Quote Originally Posted by adamh View Post
    I'm not saying i'm gonna do it, and i'm not asking wat the punishment will be if I get pulled over for doing it either, what I want to know is if u think a cop will recognise a 6'2 boy on a 500cc bike, and if they would realise its 500cc if its got an L plate on it.

    I'm only asking because I can get a 500cc bike cheap and I will have to keep it for a couple of weeks so I can sell it.
    if its a single you can get away with it most times & not riding like a clown coz most of our cops aren't idiots but may well turn a blind eye
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    One other thing is this bike is a slow 500 and is said to be the best bike to learn on in america with the horsepower laws i think.... It's a gpz500r

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    Quote Originally Posted by adamh View Post
    I'm not saying i'm gonna do it, and i'm not asking wat the punishment will be if I get pulled over for doing it either, what I want to know is if u think a cop will recognise a 6'2 boy on a 500cc bike, and if they would realise its 500cc if its got an L plate on it.

    I'm only asking because I can get a 500cc bike cheap and I will have to keep it for a couple of weeks so I can sell it.
    Sounds like you have made up your mind and are simply looking for people to agree with you.

    Seriously how the fuck will we know if a cop will recognise this? Make up your own mind if you think its worth the risk and do it (which it sounds like you want to do), or not (the more sensible approach).

    You throw the dice - you take the chances - just dont bother coming back moaning about how you are a poor little boy with no money and a $800 fine all because of some 'bloody cop'.

    geesh.

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    You probably could get a way with it but why? Ride your 50, keep the 500 and spend the $400-$1000 potential fine money on getting it ready for when you have your full.

    That is the best idea I recon, risk free, takes advantage of the cheap bike you can get now and sheesh, it's just one year. You'll have a sweet ride and have learned heaps from spending time on it.

    kinda off topic. I plan to get my little guy his first car a few years before he's legal, after spending his own sweat and money getting it real nice I hope he values it more for the work done than a kid who's put a dollar deposit on a WRX.
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