Page 3 of 3 FirstFirst 123
Results 31 to 36 of 36

Thread: Revenue collecting.

  1. #31
    Join Date
    30th June 2006 - 17:30
    Bike
    SV1000s
    Location
    In the BOP
    Posts
    704
    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    So it's not the speed, it's the deceleration that kills.
    exactly, so it makes sense that the faster you go the faster the deceleration when you hit an object

  2. #32
    Join Date
    21st December 2006 - 14:36
    Bike
    Mine
    Location
    Here
    Posts
    3,966
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    exactly, so it makes sense that the faster you go the faster the deceleration when you hit an object
    That's assuming that you hit an object in the first place. Speed is never the only factor. Something else has to go seriously wrong. I'm not suggesting that high speed is appropriate in all circumstances, I'm just saying that I don't believe the risk of high speed given the right conditions is anything to worry about. Afterall, I drive to LIVE, not just survive.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

    "Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous

    "Live to Ride, Ride to Live"

  3. #33
    Join Date
    30th June 2006 - 17:30
    Bike
    SV1000s
    Location
    In the BOP
    Posts
    704
    Quote Originally Posted by swbarnett View Post
    That's assuming that you hit an object in the first place. Speed is never the only factor. Something else has to go seriously wrong. I'm not suggesting that high speed is appropriate in all circumstances, I'm just saying that I don't believe the risk of high speed given the right conditions is anything to worry about. Afterall, I drive to LIVE, not just survive.
    i agree, but speed does add to the chance of something going wrong, and when it does here comes the law of physics.

  4. #34
    Join Date
    21st December 2006 - 14:36
    Bike
    Mine
    Location
    Here
    Posts
    3,966
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    i agree, but speed does add to the chance of something going wrong, and when it does here comes the law of physics.
    Speed is only one of many factors yet speed is touted as a single determining factor. Remove any one factor and the equation changes. There's no need to pick on speed to the exclusion of all else.
    "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin (1706-90)

    "I would rather be exposed to the inconveniences attending to much liberty than those attending too small a degree of it." - Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826)

    "Motorcycling is not inherently dangerous. It is, however, EXTREMELY unforgiving of inattention, ignorance, incompetence and stupidity!" - Anonymous

    "Live to Ride, Ride to Live"

  5. #35
    Join Date
    27th December 2005 - 21:42
    Bike
    The Mattmobile - '99 ZX-6R
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    61
    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade View Post
    i agree, but speed does add to the chance of something going wrong, and when it does here comes the law of physics.
    How exactly does speed add to the chance that something will go wrong?

    You mean the slower I go on the open road, the more I "add to the chance of something going wrong"?

    Then, yes, I agree, moving slower than the flow of traffic definitely adds to the chance that something will go wrong.

    Besides, we all know that the reason speed is picked on so much by the po-po is because it's easy to measure. It's easy to say "you were going xxx k in a xx k zone" whereas it's hard to prove that you weren't paying attention, or whatever.

  6. #36
    Join Date
    25th July 2006 - 00:22
    Bike
    10 speed 1995
    Location
    Wellington
    Posts
    288
    This idea originated wih a KBer sometime last year as I recall it. But yes they will be looking to collect elsewhere. The thing is their speed fines revenue is not optimal yet, and there is no road safety justification to increase it - as a recent report (Duignan-M.O.T) shows that fines do nothing to save lives lost due in part to speed factoring anyway.

    Its not the drinking / speeding... it's the way we.... do it ?source of quote
    Speed revenue is at the level Victoria was a a few years back, then they reduced tolerances and targeted schools (like here now), so tripling it.

    Looks like they decided their current popularity would not warrant this - so they'll ease off a bit, but hit us with the rise in GST under discussion or fines for being over 0.05 alcohol or some other such thing less controversial.

    From the revenues breakdown the KBer acquired a few mths ago, the fines from licence condition breaches are more lucrative than the speeding jackpot in sheer cash volume anyway. Something many other countries won't have.... yet. Tho they're showing an interest, greedy treasuries - kid tax on parents so the teen gets the blame.

    I hear parents now remove the other seats from cars their kids drive. Again count my blessings (no kids)

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •