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    Quote Originally Posted by ehab2weelr View Post
    i found out no matter how pissed off the cop is, if ur nice to them then they slowly calm down , mack them
    MACK THEM?!?!?! you wanna mack a pissed off copper?!?!? what the hell is wrong with you?!?!?! what if its an ugly cop?!?! geez ehab didnt know you swung that way

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    Shit yes!!! I'll buy a beer for anyone who gets a date with a cop from getting pulled over. You have to ask the cop out tho' a cop asking someone they've stoppped is just a bit weird and creepy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by YamahaR64Life View Post
    They can pull u over for any reason the conjure up, but shudnt just be able to unless they have a legit reason to do so. Totally disagree with TLMAN. As you were.

    Edit: I have seen the foolishness of my ways... In my defense it is only because of an encounter with a 'bitter' cop who in my mind ruined it for all cops. Generalization is for the ignorant or uneducated. And I am neither hence the edit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scumdog View Post
    Three times in the last 10 years.

    All at 'Booze-bus' check-points.


    I'm pissed off, wasn't doing nothing wrong, wasn't drunk, bike had a wof and was registered and they STILL pulled me up.

    bastids.
    well how would they know if you're sober/licenced/rego'd and wof'd without pulling you over? there's a reason they set up checkpoints you know

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    The worst I ever had was about 3 years ago now. Very young and looking at a MKIV Toyota Supra Aerotop Twin turbo. (Yes in hind sight I was asking to be pulled over)

    Anyway I'll continue, I drove the car for 30 mins and got pulled over 3 times for "Routine Checks". Completely put me off buying the car. That and the fact that they wouldn't insure a learner driver with a 276BHP 3.0L Twin Turbo.
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    ^ I hope it's still not like this!

    Get yourself a bike alreadly!

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    iv been pulled over once in almost 2 years of riding for wearing my school jacket lmao

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    pulled over for riding my fxr at 1am doing 70 in a 50 zone - they checked i had my full and sent me on my way

    then the other week i got a $200 ticket for doing 122 on the motorway

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    Quote Originally Posted by toycollector10 View Post
    ....... It gets worse...The city council here were doing some sort of survey on Johns Road a couple of months ago. Signaling drivers to pull over then detaining them to fill in some damn form. .........
    Quote Originally Posted by NighthawkNZ View Post
    You don't have to fill the form in and they can't make you... and you can be on your way... and years a ago I remember there was something similar in the HB, a sent the the council a bill for my time they used and loss of profit...
    I know exactly what these surveys are about, in fact I have just written the contract documents for a similar contract to be carried out in the Waikato early next year. Think of them as a Travel Census (do you complain about rights when filling in Census forms - well you probably do). Transit/Councils want to be able to plan for future roading improvements so do work to predict future traffic volumes, delays etc etc (this is what I do). I have use the data from the HB survey and the previous Chch survey (carried out in 1991)

    With respect to stopping people on the road its just like road works. You can be delayed for up to 15 minutes without prior advertising (radio, paper etc) and just normal signage on site. From experience people completely loose the ability to judge time when stopped at a road works. Seen some seriously stupid (and funny) shit when on a job that requires the stopping of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cooneyr View Post
    ............................ Seen some seriously stupid (and funny) shit when on a job that requires the stopping of people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ehab2weelr View Post
    Can cops pull you over for suspecting that you could be a Lerner rider?

    i was riding on the mway doing 85kmh during traffic and a cop pulls out from behind me and pulls me over.
    he tells me that normally people that ride the bike i was riding (gsx250) are Lerners???? he asked for my licence. so i proudly flip out my ristricted and shut him doen.

    but can they do such a thing???
    Yup they can do it...I got busted riding 10km/hr under the speed limit on ATNR on a gixer 600....said I was riding and didnt have confidence...asked for licence...bingo on a restricted...

    only been riding 10+years, can go for my full now but still can't be arsed lol!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    No it isn't. They should have to prove that they had enough evidence to suspect you of doing something wrong that would hold up in court. The NZ Police's ability to stop you for no reason at all contravenes every International human rights charter created over the last 60 years. It's totalitarianism at work.
    Yup!
    If a cop pulls your over and asks to search your person / vehicle you have the right to request they specify WHY they are searching you.

    A cop cannot search you on suspicion of X (possession of drugs say) without advising you first that thats they're going to do. If you don't agree they can arrest you and do so anyway - HOWEVER they need to arrest you on suspicion of X and if they find Y then it doesn't count in court.

    This is used to avoid "fishing" for evidence. The police are required to have a 'reasonable' reason for searching you / checking your lisence etc....

    I don't think the make of your bike cuts it. That's stereotyping, aka. profiling.



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    To the best of my knowlege, the Police can't search you without your consent, or without a warrant unless authorised by statute (eg, the old fave - invoking the Misuse of Drugs act). Similarly, you could tell them to fark off if they come knocking on your door (unless they have a warrant or other statutory authorisation. Anyone is allowed to come to your door by way of implied licence, unless specifically revoked by signage or other clear communication)

    The Police rely on cooperation (and ignorance of the right to refuse a search) to assist them in their ends to some extent.

    If the police did detain and search you without your consent or a legal justification, that would fall foul of the NZ Bill of Rights Act 1990 (sections 21, 22.), being arbitrary detention, and could be subject to a number of legal remedies/consequences This act generally trumps other legislation: "the rights and freedoms contained in this Bill of Rights may be subject only to such reasonable limits prescribed by law as can be demonstrably justified in a free and democratic society."

    But yep, they can stop you at random I fear, as they are legally permitted to.

    If however, one was stopped too frequently to be reasonable (when an otherwise non-offender) merely because of the 'type' of vehicle one chose to pilot, that could form the basis of a legitimate complaint and actiom (eg get record lodged in police database not to hassle this vehicle as they've been asking searching questions aimed at natural justice/procedural fairness and waving the NZBORA around.)

    This is all to the best of my recall of Criminal and Public law a couple of years back - I may not be entirely accurate, feel free to correct.

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    Yes, they may stop, but not search. The OP was about stopping , not searching. There is nothing to prevent them looking through windows though, once you a re stopped. Or sniffing. Good cops have big honkers I'm told. And they may detain you for up to 15 minutes to establish your identity if you are driving. Though not if you a re a passenger, he is entitled to get out and walk away.

    But also remember that the police have an age old common law right to require anyone to give their name and address, and such other reasonable details as may identify them (usually occupation or date of birth).

    Usually best to just be polite and comply with a reasonable request. Assuming you have nothing dodgy about you of course.
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    Amended sections of the Crimes Act now allow stop and search without warrant. http://www.legislation.co.nz/librari...961-043/s.314b is the authority

    s114 of the LT Act only confers stopping authority for traffic matters.

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