KB Mentor programme

[McDuck]

Yes i woulld like a mentor soon.

Heck i will be in napier next year, i will jsut give mstrs a call

[Kittyhawk]

Im not into the mentor business....just help other riders, support and encourage...never look down on them...best way to be.

[DMNTD:Me]

How's the new and improved Mentor system coming along?

[Joni]

How's the new and improved Mentor system coming along?

Very good... we are close to getting the draft done... then its fine tuning and voila!

[huck farley]

Anyone from down my way (Wanganui) want a mentor? I would be only to pleased to offer my experience. Just remember new riders, don't ride above your head!! You then have every chance of collecting the pension or Kiwi saver, or both. (I'm nearly there) Send me a PM if you need sensible, and none boring advice. Prepared to do ride outs!!
Cheers
Ride safe!!
Huckleberry

[Joni]

At this stage Mr Farley, it would have to be at your own capacity, as the KB mentor programme is not up and running at this stage!

[Sis]

Ulysses Auckland are doing a Mentoring Programme. Roadsafe (Andrew & Lynne) are training us to be mentors and ACC is funding it.
Has anyone thought to contact any of the above groups and see how they are going about it?

[Joni]

Ulysses Auckland are doing a Mentoring Programme. Roadsafe (Andrew & Lynne) are training us to be mentors and ACC is funding it.
Has anyone thought to contact any of the above groups and see how they are going about it?

Yes we are looking into it from all angles at this stage.... we want to ensure the programme is solid this time round.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

Ulysses Auckland are doing a Mentoring Programme. Roadsafe (Andrew & Lynne) are training us to be mentors and ACC is funding it.
Has anyone thought to contact any of the above groups and see how they are going about it?

If ACC are funding then I am sure the Ulysses members involved have had a training themselves as tutors and brush up on there own techniques and it is more of a rider training program... as with the Ride Right Courses and this again opens up a whole can of worms... and don't believe KB should go down this track.

I think the mentor program for KB simply needs to be a guide or riders helping newer riders with questions and techniques, and only giving pointers not a full training program as this has legal issues that would need to be tackled, as well as money involved...

my 2cents which since its not free has been rounded up to 5cents worth

[huck farley]

I personally believe that whatever age you are we are never to old to learn. Also a day that you don't learn anything is a day wasted.

I am a senior Ulysses member and have been to three training days run by the club, I can assure anyone. I came away a better rider than when I went.

With respect I don't think we should be getting to politically correct. By canning rider training, because of the system. Getting into a war of words with the authorities (or for the lack of another word the system) I believe it is not teaching new riders, or old ones returning to riding, any good at all.

In the old days before the system went overboard. All riders had had an experienced rider to look up to, and called a mentor nowadays.

I have to offer, over 40 years of experience to new, or returning riders.

My offer still stands, as long as you have a bike with a current WOF and is registered. Also your licence is current and that of a learner.

I would invite any new member to come on a weekly Sunday ride with my club. I will have you under my wing for the duration.

Plus you will meet new friends and have a good day out. Love to hear from anyone in the Wanganui district who is interested.

Also age is no barrier!! So send me a PM if you wish to sharpen your riding skills.

[James Deuce]

I personally think that offering to do anything except pick up a broken bike is pointless. Most (there are exceptions) "motorcyclists" are pretty entrenched about how 733t their own skills are.

Volunteering for a beating is a pretty odd thing to do. Leave it to the paid professionals. At least they get cash to go with the bruising.

[dangerous]

The mentor thing is a great idea, but what concerns me is whos to say who is up to the job? you would think to become a mentor that you would have to be profesionly trained, other wise whos to say a mentors bad habbits arnt passed on, hell we all think we are right yet we all have different ideas.

Yes mentor skills go beyond riding skills like T.W.R for eg: his workshop skills are a defnit mentor benafit... but as another eg: biff was a mentor, now I never did work that one out as having riden a few miles with him his riding isnt the best, so I wonder how a self confesed mentor can teach anything.

Now dont get me wrong even with my background and milage behind me every day I still learn something too, I give out help to those that ask but whos to say what works for me will work for another rider, what i consider safe may not be buy the next person.

So, who is one going to say who is mentor statous and who isnt?
Now its a great idea but id tend to keep it low key and to the basics, if people want the finer points worked on then the track and or a profesional service is realy whats needed.

[Joni]

So, who is one going to say who is mentor statous and who isnt?
Now its a great idea but id tend to keep it low key and to the basics, if people want the finer points worked on then the track and or a profesional service is realy whats needed.

There will be criteria set as to what the standards are to becoming an official KB mentor...

The programme is being done by 3 men I would trust with my life, and their judgement on what is required based on the research they are doing is what KB will go for on an official capacity.

However instead of pulling it to bit before its even started why dont people just sit back and let them get is completed.

The basics are starting to take shape and I can see they are doing a great thing for KB. Months of work has gone into it so far...

Spank has always seen the value in the Mentor programme and knows its a fairly big one and intricate to get right, so we agreed not too rush it so we know we get it right the second time round.

[Ixion]

A mentor does not teach,nor train, nor instruct. He encourages, guides and counsels. He was an ineffectual duffer, useful only as a disguise for a godess.

The other party, BTW is a telemachus.

Although legally a grey area I would say if there is money or funding involved in any way, an instructor's licence endorsement would be required.

Any official program will certainly fail.

[Trudes]

Personally, when I want some mentoring again (which will be soon), I will approach someone that I have ridden with, seen the way they ride and trust that they know what they are talking about to give me a few hours of advice and some ideas of things to practice. I think anyone who asks for mentoring should be ready and willing to take a hard swallow, shut-up, listen and take on board what they are being told, otherwise, why bother, another good reason to pick someone you already know a bit and trust them and their riding.

(Jim, you know you're going to get me hassling you soon eh?)