Recomplying a deregistered bike

[FROSTY:Me]

The question of How to get a deregistered bike back on the road is asked a LOT around here.
This thread is a work in progress but I'll take all the information supplied and once CONFIRMED bung it into this first post.
I do Know yiou need to get a brake test and for modern bikes, the frame checked. I also know that all lights must have stamps on the lens showing they meet an international standard

Comfirm with the Police that they are not "interested" in it.
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[Bonez]

Comfirm with the Police that they are not "interested" in it.

[Warren]

Comfirm with the Police that they are not "interested" in it.

This is needed as they won't accept any change of ownership written on paper and signed by the old owner.

I don't know if they waive this requirement if you were the last recorded owner before the bike was de-reged.

[98tls]

On the lights thing,its a bit of a grey area as when i took the oem rear end stuff off the TL and replaced it with a xtreme graphic undertray with leds i went down to the local Suzuki shop to get a warrant the guy was adamant he couldnt give me a wof because the leds didnt have any of said numbers on them,i went elsewere and a few months later got a phone call from mr Suzuki shop saying sorry,they had had some guy in the shop who works for whatever government dept that makes the rules and had mentioned about the tailight issue and basically that there was no issue,gave me my next warrant no problem.

[GSVR]

On the lights thing,its a bit of a grey area as when i took the oem rear end stuff off the TL and replaced it with a xtreme graphic undertray with leds i went down to the local Suzuki shop to get a warrant the guy was adamant he couldnt give me a wof because the leds didnt have any of said numbers on them,i went elsewere and a few months later got a phone call from mr Suzuki shop saying sorry,they had had some guy in the shop who works for whatever government dept that makes the rules and had mentioned about the tailight issue and basically that there was no issue,gave me my next warrant no problem.

http://www.ltsa.govt.nz/rules/vehicl...g-2004.html#83

Bit of a funny one this as I have noticed WOF checkers looking for numbers on lenses. I think if you read the legislation it has wording like the light (for indicators must be mainly white or amber for the front and visible from so many metres in daylight as well as angles of visiblity etc etc etc.

As for the revinning of bikes its just the whole political PC thing with some wankers making heaps of money forcing good honest working people to jump through hoops and pay large sums of money to someone that basically only has to sign a piece of paper stating the obvious (in alot of cases).
How do I know this? I've been and done it. Thing that pisses me off the the most is the LSTA agents down this way have nothing to do with bikes and are car restorers or panel beaters and ask you to get the bike shop to do all the work then want around $280 bucks and pretend to work for it. Fuck they are better paid than doctors or lawers.

Funny thing is if you have a bike with a live plate you can cartwheel it down the road or racetrack as many times as you like bend anything then get a WOF and sell it one to some poor bastard that is none the wiser. But buy an insurance wreck that is written off because of a scratch on the tank and plastics and becuase of this the brakes have suddenly become fucked and the frame is bent until some scammer says otherwise.

[Grumpy Gnomb]

was looking at trade me for wrecks and came saw something on this subject on the Star Insurance web site so may be worth your while having a look there

[Ixion]

1991 is the magic year for reregistering. If first registered in NZ prior to 1991, and you can prove it , and supply the old rego details, and it was last registered after 1986, the process is MUCh easier.

Prior to 1991 you do not need brake certificate, there is no invasive inspection and lights and such like to do have to comply with design standards (those numbers and letters on the lenses)

There is much confusion amongst WOF checkers about the lights . Because the critical dates are different for cars and bikes. Cars must have the numbers if registered after 1991. Bikes do not need them until 2006.

EDIT: From this very helpful site

If a vehicle has previously been registered in New Zealand, evidence of this (eg, a certifi cate of registration
or a LANDATA record) must be provided. The person presenting the vehicle for re-registration must be the
same as the person shown on the evidence of previous registration, or must be able to provide a clear
ownership trail linking themselves to the vehicle. If this is not available, a statement from the New Zealand
Police declaring that the vehicle is not a vehicle of interest must be provided (see Reference material 35).
This form may be photocopied and returned to vehicle owners if required.

and

2. Re-registration of pre-1991 vehicles
If a light vehicle was manufactured before 1991 and fi rst registered in New Zealand before 1 January
1991, the vehicle does not need to undergo the same inspection and certifi cation process as a vehicle
being registered for the fi rst time in New Zealand. Provided the vehicle meets applicable requirements
for structural condition as detailed in ‘Vehicle structure – Threshold for requiring repair certifi cation’ in this
manual, and has not been de-registered as a result of a write-off for insurance purposes, the vehicle may
be inspected according to current in-service procedures.
3. Re-registration of post-1991 vehicles
If a vehicle was manufactured after 1 January 1991 and previously registered in New Zealand, or
manufactured before 1 January 1991 but not registered in New Zealand until after this date, the vehicle
must undergo a full structural inspection with trim removal and an invasive brake inspection as part of the
inspection and certifi cation process.

Note that the "easy path" is only available for vehicles that have previously been registered in NZ (and you can provide the previous rego details) , before 1991. And if they have not been registered since 1986 you will have difficulty becuase that is when the old paper records were put on computer. And it is NOT available if the vehicle is an insurance write off.

[HungusMaximist]

Hey Frosty, just a quick pardon from me for hijacking this thread but seeing I have the same issue I hope it's all cool bananas.

I am looking at a bike at the moment which I am keen but it has no wof/rego.

I too have to ask the question about registering the bike and going through recompliance. I never have experienced this before so I guess I am gonna ask you guys how to get it done.

What I think I am gonna do is get the bike independently assessed and at the same time if they can go through the check list for compliance dso I can know what I am in for ($ money wise). Because I rather know it now than get hit by a suprise or end up with a lemon... you guys get the drift aye..

Since I have never looked into getting a bike that has no rego/wof I need your expertise...

Where do you suggest I take the bike to be checked over while they are sweet and nice enough to go through the compliance check list with me.

Perferably in Auckland Central/City because most likely I will end up with the job of taking the sellers bike to the garage and don't wanna get too lucky... if you know what i mean...

but If they're good like you mention I am happy to travel.

[Maffoo]

im doing this very soon with a 1983 CB250
im pleased to hear it is much easier for a pre-1991 bike

i was also pleasantly surprised to hear that the neutral light donest have to work

[HungusMaximist]

Surely somebody knows on KB?

*bump*

[VF AAR]

is there any way to get bike details from chassis numbers?
as my bike is dereg/no wof and i didnt get the number plate with it, and they guy who had it before me didn't have them nor the guy before him apparently.

its an 88 but that doesn't mean it was registered in nz before 1991 because its a jap import?

Is that right>?

[westie]

Any bike de registered by insurance or crash will need a repair certificate. The repair cert process has just recently been changed.
If it is just lapsed then no repair cert would be needed.

I had half worn tyres and they made me change them for new ones. Gay! cos they were pilots and I had to get pirellis.

They're pretty picky on the insurance write off ones, even if they just got a scratch !

[FROSTY:Me]

Surely somebody knows on KB?

*bump*

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Give Alex a yell--4168932 Thats what he does for a living

[richard l]

hi guys, there's a guy in hamilton that did my GPZ, because it was de-registered after an accident. He is a bike guy, and knows his stuff, and checks the bike over wickedly (not like some of the car guys i've heard about who get bike shops to check it and then they just sign the form and take your money!) he has lasers and all the specs etc there. only takes a day or so. will find his number and get back on here with it.

[gil]

Hi, I have just been informed of this thread by a customer of mine. My name is Gil, and i do repair certificates for motorcycles only, that is, I dont do cars! Motorcycles only. The Inspection is done by myself, not farmed out to a bike shop (unlike some of the vehicle certifiers). I am the prefered certifier for Star Insurance, Turners Auctions, and the bike shops (and their staff) in the area to name but a few.
Any questions please feel free to PM me, or contact me on 021 725717.
After reading the responces above, alot of you seem to have a good understanding of the issues surrounding the process, however some of you sound like you've had bad experiences with others in the past, I hope I can help to ensure this wont happen again.
The process is relatively simple, it is important, and there for a reason. It's not expensive, and once completed makes you feel good about the safety of those that ride that bike.
I also do the Brake Declorations for those requiring it, so both can be done in one visit.
I hope this message finds it's way to those that need it!

Hope to see you on the road.(if the RSV starts!)

cheers
Gil