Speeding and lack of riding skills

[Maha]

I did try and sweet talk Spank Me today he wouldn't take responsibility....

See thats where you went wrong Boom Boom....dropping to your knees would have fixed it......

[Toaster]

I do wonder why crusier riders need such very large engines, though, if they are never to exceed the speed limit. I do not think that I am quite old enough yet for a crusier. Maybe one day.

Quite simple, everyone to their own style of motorcycle. Mine ain't no armchair cruiser either.

Too old? Geez... I am only 35. Age has nothing to do with it. The M109R is no "old-man's" cruiser.

[SPman]

Perception of what is safe and what isn't, in any given situation, is a no win argument. Most riders will say they were safe, even if they get home with leathers full of brown stuff!
Gross stupidity in the actions of a few riders, however, with their apparent total disregard for the fact they are sharing the road with the rest of the populace, disregard basic road survival techniques (the passing on blind brows of hills, left hand corners, into oncoming traffic when they are relying on the other vehicle to get out of the way), leaves me gobsmacked, every time I see it. You get them over here, (W.A), as well.
There is an old saying I go by - "Ride fast - not stupid".
I just try and keep clear of them, hope to hell they only kill themselves don't involve other vehicles in their impending potential disasters, and learn some basic road survival skills before that event.
I enjoy riding quickly on the road - particularly a road I haven't been on before - beats track time any day, but I also want to get home at the end of the day. They way some riders ride, and the lack of road riding skills they display, makes me wonder sometimes........
Mind you, you get it with cage drivers as well...........

[Fatjim]

Too old? Geez... I am only 35. Age has nothing to do with it. The M109R is no "old-man's" cruiser.

Definitely not, that lump would rattle the fillings outa an old bugger.

[mstriumph]

..............................I do wonder why crusier riders need such very large engines, though, if they are never to exceed the speed limit. ..................

how ELSE would they get so much chrome on one bike?

[HTFU]

There is an old saying I go by - "Ride fast - not stupid".

great old saying that

Where did you come up with that one?

[SPman]

A California bike site I frequented in 1998-9 - Interactive motorcycle - had some brilliant articles on it, which, luckily I downloaded and printed out because the owner got pissed off with imbecilic behaviour and squidly stupidity amongst the biking fraternity and closed the site down!
He rode an FZR400 with a YZF600 motor shoehorned in...... he was no holier than thou, goody goody cruiser rider, just got sickened by pointless death after pointless death, by guys (and girls) with bigger egos than brains.
Shame, really, I haven't found a site to match it since.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

I do wonder why crusier riders need such very large engines, though, if they are never to exceed the speed limit.

Large engine is not always about speed... sometimes its about the low down torque...

[imdying]

Doesn't have to a lack of riding skills, KB has lost 'good' riders.... riding like a twat is more than enough. More KBers are going to die, the message will never get through. Bike type doesn't matter either, they're just bikes. Pulling wheelies and/or speeding in places without runoff just shows a lack of brains... do we really want a stupid person as the poster child for anti chesse cutters? If they find out it was speed, are they going to throw it back in our face? Is that going to set back having action taken against them?

[skidMark]

do we really want a stupid person as the poster child for anti chesse cutters? If they find out it was speed, are they going to throw it back in our face? Is that going to set back having action taken against them?

On behalf of N4CR:

So Dan is stupid?
DO YOU KNOW THE CIRCUMSTANCES OR THE CAUSE OF THE ACCIDENT, NO, SO SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STOP BEING DISRESPECTFUL. - N4CR

[imdying]

I'm sure if that wasn't the case, then N4CR would've set me straight... but seeing as he hasn't, he can suck my balls. Putting our heads in the sand and ignoring the real issues isn't going to bring anyone back, and it sure as shit ain't gonna stop anyone from here dying in the future.

[skidMark]

In response to imdying...

From N4CR:

can't be fucked making a 5th alt account to post and I can't say any more due to legal proceedings in that case with regards to the cause of the accident. rider NOT at fault in this case.


he will PM you on SB forums...

[imdying]

Fair enough. I don't see why, if it's the truth, as that'll come out in court anyway, why it can't be posted here though? I have a whole heap more sympathy for mechanical failures as opposed to excessive speed, and I'd bet I'm not the only one. But right now, it looks like another unnecessary death, and not because of the cheesecutters (as ghey as they are). Please, enlighten us!

[Grubber]

Come on fellas. Surely you didn't think that when you brought your bike you were going to be wrapped in cotton wool. Never mind the medium barriers, what about the tree the post the fence the wall. Do we wrap them in pillows too so we don't get hurt too much. Riders ride for the thrill or the wind or the freedom. Whatever it is they ride for there is an element of risk. Just live with it. Thats what the rest of us do. If some idiot cuts you off then chase him down and punch him till he gets the idea that he pissed you off. Then get back on ya bike and enjoy the rest of your ride.

[Usarka]

Come on fellas. Surely you didn't think that when you brought your bike you were going to be wrapped in cotton wool. Never mind the medium barriers, what about the tree the post the fence the wall. Do we wrap them in pillows too so we don't get hurt too much. Riders ride for the thrill or the wind or the freedom. Whatever it is they ride for there is an element of risk. Just live with it. Thats what the rest of us do. If some idiot cuts you off then chase him down and punch him till he gets the idea that he pissed you off. Then get back on ya bike and enjoy the rest of your ride.

Do you wear protective gear? if so, why?

There is also a risk driving a car. Should we not put up median barriers at all because after all everyone knows cars can crash. Being a pedestrian or a cyclist is pretty risky these days also - lets not worry about traffic light crossings or cycle lanes.

the issue is that something has been introduced that increases the risk for us (like there isn't enough already) when there are viable alternatives available.

[Edit:] hmmm not sure this belonged in this thread or not. oh well.....ftw.