The amazing Boy Racer Poll!

[scumdog]

280BHP is the jap "gentlemens agreement".
I am having trouble believing that it was *just* the exhaust and filter that did that. He must have upped the boost as well.
eg. Mitsi factory upgraded Evo's (FQ300, FQ330, with 300 and 330HP respectively) required exhaust, chip and boost mods to get that power.

In saying that, 350hp is entirely believeable when you add upping the boost into the equation.

My F100 is about 420hp + and 530+ft/lb torque, 'only' does 13.9sec 1/4 mile but then it weighs about 1 & 1/2 Evos and has two wheel drive, still, it owes me half the price of one of the older Evos.

My h.p restriction is my wallet - want to do 10sec 1/4s, sponsors anybody??

[TonyB]

Some boy racers do a bloody nice job on their cars, I admire the way they take a car and make it into something special- must cost them a bloody fortune though, but then it's better than drinking all your money away. Note I say SOME- most of them just seem to make stupid modifications that are only going to upset the handling etc etc
I still think it's time something was done to restrict the type of car you're allowed to drive when you first get your licence. Lets face it, if young master boy racer or mummy and daddy can afford it, he can get a nice EVO or WRX the day he gets his licence. A few years back I was told that Crowe Sports had sold the quickest street car they had ever built up (up to that time) to a 16 year old kid- bought by his mum. Wonder how long it lasted....
The ones that make me laugh are the big boy racers. Has anyone seen the latest Commodore ad? It say's something like 'The Holden Commodore has won Bathurst 7 times in a row- must be an awesome car...' Come on Holden, the only thing 'Commodore' on that car is the body shell! The engine, the gearbox, the suspension (and suspension type), the brakes, the diff- none of them are standard! Same goes for the Falcon. Do the people who buy these things seriously believe in this crap?

[SPORK]

In a word, yes.

The general public will believe whatever they are told to believe. Anyone here not read 1984?

[Motu]

The body shell of the Commodore is Opel,always has been (where do you think the name came from) Opel does the development and the other GM divisions adapt it to their market.The GM3800 is a front drive US unit,the Commodore is the only rear drive application.It's global,the Holden has never been an Aussie car,no matter what they say,they are told what to do from higher up.

I get to drive some of these boy racer things,they are never more than cosmetics,the no springs bit is dangerous - going around a corner if you hit a bump the whole car is in the air.All totaly undrivable.

What's sad is these young guys haven't changed the plan for nearly 50 yrs,I remember young guys pulling the choke out on Morris Series Es to make it sound like a hot cam.I never got into all that shit of course - you didn't need to when you had a 38 Chev Coupe,just having a car like that elevated cool to another level.

[rodgerd]

The ones that make me laugh are the big boy racers. Has anyone seen the latest Commodore ad? It say's something like 'The Holden Commodore has won Bathurst 7 times in a row- must be an awesome car...' Come on Holden, the only thing 'Commodore' on that car is the body shell!

Actually, the real "come on Holden" is "but only after we banned the Japs and Jerries, because we couldn't actually build a car to beat Nissan or BMW."

[TonyB]

Actually, the real "come on Holden" is "but only after we banned the Japs and Jerries, because we couldn't actually build a car to beat Nissan or BMW."

Too bloody right! When there's only 2 types of car in the race, you've got a 50% chance of winning. Nissan over did it a bit with the GTR, they prolly could have cleaned up using a ordinary Skyline turbo as the base car.

Motu, agree with you on all points. I remember in the late 80's the cool thing to do was lower the front and jack up the rear of your boyracer mobile. Never could understand that one either.

[rodgerd]

Too bloody right! When there's only 2 types of car in the race, you've got a 50% chance of winning. Nissan over did it a bit with the GTR, they prolly could have cleaned up using a ordinary Skyline turbo as the base car.

Nah. Work to the maximum of the formula, that's what I say. Hell, they tried to cripple the Skylines with all the extra weight and they still won.

The best article I saw from that era was when one of the Aussie car rags took a race prepped group A Commodore and raced it around a circut against a stock, street legal GT-R. The GT-R still shat all over it, which tells you how weak the Commodore was.

Of course, they claim it's V8 Supercars, but they're too chicken to let Audi S8s, BMW M5s, or other 5 litre V8s compete, using that bullshit "Australian car" rule to lock them out.

[Hitcher]

Until the arrival of the Ford Territory (ignoring the engine), the only recent "all Australian car" was the Mitsubishi Diamante.

[Coyote]

Race mode? Huh? I guess it illustrates the flawed association between noise and performance that many of these boys and girls harbour.

Harleys. Need I say more

As for the whole Ford and Holden thing, how 'Australian' are both of the cars? Probebly the only 'Australian' thing about them is that australians make a bid deal of them. They're not that great the V8 supercars anyway, they only barely manage 290 on the longets straight on Bathurst. 290? Poofs.

[Coldkiwi]

As an angry black man from the 80's might've said : "I PITY THE FOOL WITH A RICE CAR!"

Case in point, my old flatmate has spent at least 25-30,000 trying to get a GTO and drag 500Hp out of it in an effort to run 11 second quarter miles. In the mean time, I went out and bought a gixxer for 13K - I'm still waiting for him to turn up and prove to me how much faster he is! (he keeps nattering about rolling starts etc. etc., not sure why given that I have a clutch I can slip!).

If I really wanted to go fast, I'd have bought a 2nd hand Busa and whacked a turbo kit on it (minus the noisy valve!) and still paid less than 30k for one hell of a mind bend!

[aff-man]

i was just wondering where to option " gotta have em, kinda like possums, so you can go and hunt them" was???????? yeh i mean the guys who do up thier cars to go super fast for the rush usually havn't even been on a 250. Hell the 400 does a good enough job of giving me my jollies

[SPORK]

Well, CK, at least it was a GTO, they are pretty pimping, as far as cages go...

Sorry, got to get out of that frame of mind eh?


Going dirbiking tomorrow, and the next day

[Coldkiwi]

Gto's are nice enough... but why he insists that he's going to beat me in any form of acceleration I'm buggered if I know. what he SHOULD be doing is decrying my cornering ability (after all, its got dirty fat wheels and 4x4)... but unfortunately for him, my answer to that is 'lets see what your times are like around pukekohe' and then he gets all nervous, reckons he'd loose control and scratch his precious!

quite funny really. he wants to prove its worth at the drag strip! Its like entering a Chihuahua in a pulling contest against a Malamute!

[Coyote]

Nicest car I've seen has to be my old 1984 Ford Laser. All my friends agree, she's a beaut. If I get a pic, I'll post it on a new thread.

Madcat_'s gonna go hysterical now

[SPORK]

[spasm] I think that the Justy beats the Laser, and my new Accord is even better [/spasm]