The amazing Boy Racer Poll!

[scumdog]

Nicest car I've seen has to be my old 1984 Ford Laser. All my friends agree, she's a beaut. If I get a pic, I'll post it on a new thread.

Madcat_'s gonna go hysterical now

Old? old? - hell our NEWEST car by 20 years is Mrs SD's '84 Laser Ghia!!!

[NordieBoy]

[spasm] I think that the Justy beats the Laser, and my new Accord is even better [/spasm]

That's the good thing about bracket racing :cool2:

[backfire]

My 16yr old son follows the boy racer thing but I just can't understand how a 4 cylinder piece of jap-crap is better than a V8 SS Commodore...

[Motoracer]

My 16yr old son follows the boy racer thing but I just can't understand how a 4 cylinder piece of jap-crap is better than a V8 SS Commodore...

Very few kids these days are prepared to pay the gas guzzling requirements of a V8 commodore (specially the older models!)

[backfire]

Very few kids these days are prepared to pay the gas guzzling requirements of a V8 commodore (specially the older models!)



What they don't spend on gas makes up for the constant maintenance on the motors and tyres I would expect...

[Devil]

Or it might have something to do with the stupid insurance on "larger" engined cars.
When I was 19, I had to talk the insurance company into letting me have a mitsi magna station wagon. yes a MAGNA. 2.4 litres of putt putt.
"Oh, we dont really like younguns with engines over 2 litre".
FFS.
Oh wait, then theres the fun one, here I am now @ 23 years old, with a '97 VR4 (2.5 litre twin turbo) which I am insured for (of course), yet I cant get insured for my mothers(!!) '91 mr2, non turbo, automatic. A whole 150hp of gutless crap. "But its a sports car". HELLOO

[TonyB]

Gto's are nice enough... but why he insists that he's going to beat me in any form of acceleration I'm buggered if I know. what he SHOULD be doing is decrying my cornering ability (after all, its got dirty fat wheels and 4x4)... but unfortunately for him, my answer to that is 'lets see what your times are like around pukekohe' and then he gets all nervous, reckons he'd loose control and scratch his precious!

quite funny really. he wants to prove its worth at the drag strip! Its like entering a Chihuahua in a pulling contest against a Malamute!

I wouldn't worry about his cornering ability. Unless his GTO has aerodynamics to give it downforce, your GSXR will shit all over his GTO in the corners. As far as street based cars go, they have to have some downforce to match current motorcycle handling. This was proven a couple of years back by Motorcyclist magazine. They took a then top spec Corvette, a GSXR1000, and some guy called Kevin Schwantz. They let him hoon around Willow Springs (I think) with telemetry in both machines. The GSXR was obviously faster on the straights, but it was also significantly faster in the corners. Despite having LEAFSPRINGS in the rear (!) the Corvette apparently handles very well. They put the stickiest street legal rubber they could find on the Corvette, while the GSXR had the standard OEM rubber.

I don't consider myself to be anything but average in the corners. A while back a guy in a Porsche 944 tried to take me on going up a windy hill. I expected the 944 to leave me behind in the corners, but I was surprised to find that despite the fact that he was pushing hard enough to get his tyres squealing he was still slowing me down all the way through the corner. I didn't have to do anything more than cruise to be all over him.

A V8 Super car turns similar lap times to an Aussie Superbike, but then they have an aerodynamic package, so they can corner a bit quicker and brake harder and later.

[Stinger]

My 16yr old son follows the boy racer thing but I just can't understand how a 4 cylinder piece of jap-crap is better than a V8 SS Commodore...

Could be because $ for $, they're faster and actually go round corners.

[Devil]

I don't consider myself to be anything but average in the corners. A while back a guy in a Porsche 944 tried to take me on going up a windy hill. I expected the 944 to leave me behind in the corners, but I was surprised to find that despite the fact that he was pushing hard enough to get his tyres squealing he was still slowing me down all the way through the corner. I didn't have to do anything more than cruise to be all over him.

Strange, a 944 with decent suspension (getting a little old now) and good tyres should have given you quite a bit of trouble (depends on the model, anything less than a 944S and you'd kill it, but the S and S2 are great handling cars.)

If it was a plain 944, then yeah, id expect you to get round it, average suspension and not a lot of power.

I had a mint '87 944S all lined up for me to buy a few years ago but I couldnt get insured for it

Oh and the V8 Supercars are quite limited by their aerodynamic package and tyre size regulations. They'd get round quicker if they changed the rules (their front air dam is has a fixed angle thats the same for the fords and holdens, however the rear is adjustable but only up to a certain point. No other aerodynamic aids are allowed that arent on the prod car).
Tyres are too skinny for that power/torque

[SPORK]

Yup, after reading an insurance companies WhatToInsureAndWhatToBeLeftToSteal list i noticed that all that mattered is what the boy racer fag0rts thought was cool. Didn't matter how actually powerful it is, just as long as it is appealing to the BRFs... yay.

[justsomeguy]

HATE THE BASTARDS -

First off - I fit all the stereotypes of a boy racer (have the car and am the age) but I'm not one.

Most of them are a bunch of talentless sick fucks.

By the way a larger exhaust helps performance and is one of the cheapest and easiest (bolt on performance modifications) When I mean exhaust I mean the whole thing right through to the engine not a stupid Pams or Watties tin can stuck to the muffler with cellotape. As far as alloy wheels go - there is a limit - unless you are on a track. It's just show with these idiots. It is better to spend your money on better tyres and make sure everything is balanced and aligned.

As for the appeal of little Jap cars over V8's it all a matter of economics. V8 cars usually weigh more - so go through (wear out) their tyres, brakes - all the WoF stuff at a quicker rate. Also they comparatively cost more to run and fix - not to mention buy and the little Jap cars are also a whole lot more efficient in the amount of power they can extract from their engine - meaning you use all the power.

And then there is typical NZ country roads to consider. My MR2 will easily leave a commodore behind in the twisties (with both drivers of equal ability) - just like a good 400 will screw a big harley in the twisties.

What I hate the most about boy racers is their lack of judgement. Fools with no driving experience with the power to kill. Almost rear ended one bastard young guy today as he suddenly changed lanes in front of me without indicating or looking into his mirror. I (in a cage) had to drive on the wrong side of the road and passed a car coming from the other direction with barely 6 inches between us.

I hate the idiots on Queen St at nights. If you really want to drive - do what I do - join a car club and go out on track days, organised club runs down remote but challenging country roads, etc, etc. Don't toodle along in the city and endanger the public.

I have nothing against asian drivers in general - but some of them are You know what I'm talkng about.

Yes I own a little 4 cylinder cos thats all I can pay for - otherwise it would be a black 1965 AC Shelby Cobra with a 427cu engine.

There's no replacement for displacement. Period.

[Motoracer]

Amen to that. I wana MR2 turbo too!

[scumdog]

I love to 'tinker' and to 'improve' things, I also like to 'detail' and like a clean uncluttered engine bay, in just about all Jappas there is neither the room or engine lay-out to freely tinker or detail an engine and engine bay.

My 'dinosaur' F100 has a tidy engine bay, no messy electronics, turbo, intercooler, injection or emmissions gear to 'mess' things up and it has an engine bay big enough to lose a whole MR2 in!!

Just my pre-historic opinion.

[Blakamin]

I love to 'tinker' and to 'improve' things, I also like to 'detail' and like a clean uncluttered engine bay, in just about all Jappas there is neither the room or engine lay-out to freely tinker or detail an engine and engine bay.

My 'dinosaur' F100 has a tidy engine bay, no messy electronics, turbo, intercooler, injection or emmissions gear to 'mess' things up and it has an engine bay big enough to lose a whole MR2 in!!

Just my pre-historic opinion.

Not pre-historic!... shit, the newest cage I've ever owned was a 79 XD...(351)
give me an F truck anyday!... my cousin just sold his mr2.. about as comfortable as a go cart!

[TonyB]

Strange, a 944 with decent suspension (getting a little old now) and good tyres should have given you quite a bit of trouble (depends on the model, anything less than a 944S and you'd kill it, but the S and S2 are great handling cars.)

Ooops, just been looking at some photo's to show you what it looked like, and it wasn't a 944- it was a Morris Oxford, just kidding- it was a 928. I have no idea where these fit into the world of performance cars, perhaps they handle like a Morris Oxford.....which would explain a lot....