Are you a BIG bastard?

[greenhorn]

I am, and if you are too and your on your learners or restricted it could mean you dont have to be on the 250cc max restriction.
Some months back i heard some story about a guy who was pretty tall who got an exemption from this rule and went out an bought a big arse bike to ride around on. I was sceptical and asked around here if anyone had heard of it and it seems everyone else was sceptical too.
Well i did it. I got my learners license in the mail last week along with an official letter which means i'm exempt from the 250cc rule. Its cool as and was easy to do.
All you do is grab an exemption form from the AA or the LTSA, i cant remember the number of the form but is there with all the other forms for getting a license and doing rego's and all that sort of crap. Its called an Exemption from Blahdy Blah or sommit like that. You fill it in explaining the exemption you want and why you feel you should get it.
I wrote a breif paragraph saying i was a tall bastard with long legs that made riding 250cc bikes uncomfortable and difficult to handle. Mentioned my clean driving record and how responsible i was. Paid the grand total of $22 and 1 week later i had my exemption. Its just a letter that must be carried with you at all times.
Although there are no guarantees and it's done on a case by case basis the amazing thing is that i did not have to provide any evidence of my height, nor does the exemption letter make any reference to the reason why i got the exemption.
So now i'm free to go and buy any big arse bike i like. Not that i will cos sadly i dont have the money, but its kinda cool to know that i can when i want to.

Just putting this out there for any other big bastards. :spudwave:

[SPORK]

Hey, wicked!

Usefull post, ka pai! Good to know that it isn't strictly enforced, and they do have a heart... almost

[erik]

F%$k!

I never thought of that. How tall are you? I'm 1.94m 90-something kgs, I wonder if I could get an exemption... But then maybe the fact that I've been riding a 250 for the last 9 or so months might stuff it up and be hard to explain.

Interesting to know though!

[Storm]

Bet you will get a ton of Christmas cards if you get that word spread far and wide. Excellant work

[Indiana_Jones]

How tall do u have to be, I'm kinda tall, But light, does weight play a factor?
Also, what cc can u ride upto? cheers

-Indy

[Midnight 82]

:cool2: must be worth a try if you dont have a licence....But could be dangerous to if you have never riden before??????

[Skyryder]

I am, and if you are too and your on your learners or restricted it could mean you dont have to be on the 250cc max restriction.
Some months back i heard some story about a guy who was pretty tall who got an exemption from this rule and went out an bought a big arse bike to ride around on. I was sceptical and asked around here if anyone had heard of it and it seems everyone else was sceptical too.
Well i did it. I got my learners license in the mail last week along with an official letter which means i'm exempt from the 250cc rule. Its cool as and was easy to do.
All you do is grab an exemption form from the AA or the LTSA, i cant remember the number of the form but is there with all the other forms for getting a license and doing rego's and all that sort of crap. Its called an Exemption from Blahdy Blah or sommit like that. You fill it in explaining the exemption you want and why you feel you should get it.
I wrote a breif paragraph saying i was a tall bastard with long legs that made riding 250cc bikes uncomfortable and difficult to handle. Mentioned my clean driving record and how responsible i was. Paid the grand total of $22 and 1 week later i had my exemption. Its just a letter that must be carried with you at all times.
Although there are no guarantees and it's done on a case by case basis the amazing thing is that i did not have to provide any evidence of my height, nor does the exemption letter make any reference to the reason why i got the exemption.
So now i'm free to go and buy any big arse bike i like. Not that i will cos sadly i dont have the money, but its kinda cool to know that i can when i want to.

Just putting this out there for any other big bastards. :spudwave:

Now that you have broadcast far and wide this little bit of 'dangerouse' information and can bath in your glory remember this: While there are many restrictions that at first glance may appear to be silly, the 250 learners restriction is not one of them. You do appear to have exploited a loophole, and as you state in your post you do not have the money to capitilise on this. Sooner or later someone will do what you have done and have the money to go bigger than the current 250 restriction. From this two things can happen. Someone will get themselves killed because of inexperiance or this loophole will be so widely exploited that it will be closed to those that realy need an exemption becasue of their weight or height.

Nice post Greenhorn.

[FlyingDutchMan]

Dang! I wish I had known about that earlier... Its no use to me now, I can sit my full in a couple of weeks.

[Stevo]

Now that you have broadcast far and wide this little bit of 'dangerouse' information and can bath in your glory remember this: While there are many restrictions that at first glance may appear to be silly, the 250 learners restriction is not one of them. You do appear to have exploited a loophole, and as you state in your post you do not have the money to capitilise on this. Sooner or later someone will do what you have done and have the money to go bigger than the current 250 restriction. From this two things can happen. Someone will get themselves killed because of inexperiance or this loophole will be so widely exploited that it will be closed to those that realy need an exemption becasue of their weight or height.

Nice post Greenhorn.

Kind of agree. I was going to try for a change to the hours of riding to change 10-5 to 10-4 as I was dairy farming and this would enable me to (legally) ride to work to start at 5 am. Instead I chanced my arm, and people can do this as well, with the cc rating thing. A few 250cc stickers on a 400 work pretty well apparently.
Cannot see this loophole being exploited. Just may bring about a change in having to prove your height etc.......... Maybe

[Mr Skid]

Now that you have broadcast far and wide this little bit of 'dangerouse' information and can bath in your glory remember this: While there are many restrictions that at first glance may appear to be silly, the 250 learners restriction is not one of them. You do appear to have exploited a loophole, and as you state in your post you do not have the money to capitilise on this. Sooner or later someone will do what you have done and have the money to go bigger than the current 250 restriction. From this two things can happen. Someone will get themselves killed because of inexperiance or this loophole will be so widely exploited that it will be closed to those that realy need an exemption becasue of their weight or height.

Nice post Greenhorn.

I don't think that's a fair comment to make.

It's legal to ride a Aprila RS250 on a learners licence, which if I'm not mistaken is a 70hp bike. That's more than enough to get someone in trouble if they aren't sure what they are doing. On the other hand a more managable bike like a 400-600cc single or twin is ruled out by the licencing scheme.

The 250cc limit is ill conceived, where there are such differences between bikes.

In Australia (Victoria I think) they have approved bikes, whereby you can choose to learn on a v twin such as Hyosung 650, which is a more placid bike than most sport 250s IMHO.

If the LTSA is going to be having a exemption system such as that, then it's up to them to police it if they are concerned, such as a requiring a letter from a GP to confirm the application.

I don't think we can condem someone just for making this information available.

[JohnBoy]

[QUOTE=paparazzi.
I don't think we can condem someone just for making this information available.[/QUOTE]
i agree. use this information wisely people, once the gov finds out were playing them they will change the rules!

[Bob]

Over here in the UK/England (to stop any ranting), we have restricted licences. There is a big difference in how the restriction is applied.

Our restricted licences work by horsepower, not cc.

As a learner, you are limited to something like 14.5bhp (not sure offhand, it has been a long time since I've ridden anything that small) - in reality, this equates to no more than a 125cc bike.

Once you've passed your test (unless you take an 'Accellerated Access' course), you are restricted for two years to a bike with a maximum of 33bhp. So something like a 250cc Virago is fine, but the Aprila RS250 you mention cannot be ridden until you pass your full test.

And to the best of my knowledge, there are no exceptions.

Personally I am amazed that you can apply for an exemption "Because it is a bit uncomfortable" - if things are that bad, pass your test!

Again, over here, you only have a limited amount of time to pass anyway (2 or 3 years), or you lose your licence for 12 months.

Of course, if everyone tries this, then the loophole WILL be closed. And I can't wait to hear how someone about 2 foot six inches tries to explain how they don't have to ride a 250 or smaller as they are exempt on height grounds...

[badlieutenant]

I don't think that's a fair comment to make.

It's legal to ride a Aprila RS250 on a learners licence, which if I'm not mistaken is a 70hp bike. That's more than enough to get someone in trouble if they aren't sure what they are doing. On the other hand a more managable bike like a 400-600cc single or twin is ruled out by the licencing scheme.

The 250cc limit is ill conceived, where there are such differences between bikes.

In Australia (Victoria I think) they have approved bikes, whereby you can choose to learn on a v twin such as Hyosung 650, which is a more placid bike than most sport 250s IMHO.

If the LTSA is going to be having a exemption system such as that, then it's up to them to police it if they are concerned, such as a requiring a letter from a GP to confirm the application.

I don't think we can condem someone just for making this information available.

I think the rules need to be upgraded a bit in this regard. It should be a power to wieght restriction.

[Blakamin]

I think the rules need to be upgraded a bit in this regard. It should be a power to wieght restriction.

Not sure about bikes in victoria...(WA licence) but cars over there are power to weight... which stops dicks driving V8 toranas as well as killer WRX's....

[riffer]

I think the rules need to be upgraded a bit in this regard. It should be a power to wieght restriction.

Exactly. There's gotta be a good point to being a FAT bastard like me.