Have you guys seen what has been installed at the Peka Peka passing lanes? What are your views on them? I cant be arsed to go and find it if someone has already posted lol
Have you guys seen what has been installed at the Peka Peka passing lanes? What are your views on them? I cant be arsed to go and find it if someone has already posted lol
The only stupid question is a question not asked!
You obviously have not done much riding down the backroads of Taranaki. As the fences are close, one lane and at times washouts send you back the way you came. This includes washouts that can be ridden down if your that keen and plenty of places to get stuck. Are you telling me this is solely an issue of those who ride on sealed roads? Sounds like its the riders who are pussies and don't trust themselves enough to ride anywhere half decient. If so its quite possible that these sort of individuals would utterly shit themselves. If they tried riding along, up and down some of the goat tracks that I've been along. If any of this applies then things have got far too polictically correct. That pansies that are best suited to be cagers, are trying to ride motorcycles. Although considering there are alot of riders in Auckland, I can imagine that there are riders who fit the bill.
The whole cheese grater issue is really a non-issue. Especially when its fed by the what ifs and a rider doing a wheelie gone wrong and ending up in the barrier. If you don't have the ability, confidence, skills, knowledge to ride properly and want to thake the risk. Then you are best suited in a cage of some sort, if the perils and possibilities of riding a motorcle bothers you. Which in the end just makes the whole thing a joke and take the piss out of motorcycling.
Anyone who does not understand the above, don't bother replying to it, as I've had enough of idiots making a cock of themself.
Those who insist on perfect safety, don't have the balls to live in the real world.
The safety requirements for roads is usually based on the traffic flow (and hence the probability of a crash increasing). For example, most developed countries require median barriers when the flow exceeds 10,000 vehicles/hour.
I'm not familiar with the roads you speak off, but if the traffic flow is sufficiently low then perhaps the area authority considers it acceptable.
I don't know if you have read the NHSA and Monash University study already quoted. Probably two of the most famous general road safety research organisations. Anyway you'll find they did a lot of actual crash studies and computer simulations, and on about page 24 you'll find that they discovered that a motorcycle colliding with a wire barrier at any angle at any speed will suffer a serious injury (many of them fatal).
You don't have to be doing a wheelie. There is a very good chance that a glancing impact at more than 60km/h will be fatal. I'm not talking about an acute or head in impact, just a minor glancing impact.
What they found typically happens is the rider ends up under the wire rope barrier, and they get trapped between the motorcycle and a pillar holding up the wire rope barriers. This frequently causes limb dismemberment. If you don't end up getting squashed by the motorcycle you sometimes just get wrapped around the pillar. This breaks whatever part of you that gets wrapped around the pillar. If you suffer two serious limb injuries you'll probably die (refer the Hurt report on fatal motorcycle accident findings). If you main body section wraps around the pillar you'll probably die.
Pretty much the short form is if you impact a wire rope barrier at any angle above 60km/h consider yourself dead. You are lucky otherwise.
Sure, your right, there is a risk to everything. Motorcyclists have to accept this. But some risks are easy to mitigate, and this is one of them.
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"Whole life balance, Daniel-San" ("Karate Kid")
Kia kaha, kia toa, kia manawanui ( Be strong, be brave, be steadfast and sure)![]()
DON'T RIDE LIKE YA STOLE IT, RIDE TO SURVIVE.
Best you not go that way. if it scares you. P.dath, thankyou for proving a point. It could be time for you to stop riding. If you have utilise theory and what if, to hide the fact that your scared. We have "WRB" (I like that, less typing) in this part of the country and we are coping with them. So what is everyone else doing wrong?
Those who insist on perfect safety, don't have the balls to live in the real world.
The same can be said of any rural road, in any part of the country.
You are being completely disingenuous, talking about farm fences...whether they are dangerous to us, or not, is not in question. The difference is -
They are NOT installed for motorist's safety. Unlike cheesecutters. Or Armco with blades for posts.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
So are you suggesting that because I ride a bike and choose to take some concern for the way those building our roads take little regard for me or my follow bikers, that I should stay in bed or drive a carI'm really start ta think ya trying too get the thread to PD by trolling.
New Zealand......
The Best Place in the World to live if ya Broke
"Whole life balance, Daniel-San" ("Karate Kid")
Kia kaha, kia toa, kia manawanui ( Be strong, be brave, be steadfast and sure)![]()
DON'T RIDE LIKE YA STOLE IT, RIDE TO SURVIVE.
Two instances I have come across are new installations on the first bend of the uphill passing lane 1km north of Kai Iwi, and the new Tariki subway. In both instances a small oil / diesel spill is all that would be needed to send a motorcyclist sliding towards these knife edged posts exposed from ground to over 1 metre high.
Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow aren’t just the 4 cycles of an engine
Which is exactly what happened last Feb, killing one rider, maiming a second and injuring a third. The fourth rider managed to not get injured. That was standard Armco/wooden posts on SH5. I shudder to think what the injury/death rate would have been with these metal knives.
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
Nadroj's attached photos are clipped from the csp pacific website. Not sure where most of them are, but a couple look like the south side of the Pauatahanui Inlet
Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?
From LTSA website:
"NOTES ON THE SPECIFICATION FOR ROAD SAFETY
BARRIER SYSTEMS
1. INTRODUCTION
A road safety barrier is considered to be a hazard and should only be used when the
consequences of hitting it are less than the hazard/object which it is shielding. The
use of a road safety barrier should only be considered as a last resort following an
assessment of whether or not the mitigation of the hazard or object can be achieved
through the application of the principles of clear zoning.
A clear zone is a recovery zone in which a driver may regain the control of an errant
vehicle. The clear zone must be free from hazards or objects and traversable by a
vehicle. Refer to SHGDM, Section 6.6: Clear Zone for more details on clear zone
principles and requirements."
Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Blow aren’t just the 4 cycles of an engine
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