Cheesecutter campaign

[Pixie]

I was actually talking to a few Fulton Hogan guys from here and they are in the same mind as everyone else....They do not want these barriers in the HB. Maybe another avenue of people to approach or even have on side?

I'm not disparaging Fulton hogan.They maybe good allies to us as they have
Concrete casting divisions within the FH group.

[MSTRS:Me]

I was actually talking to a few Fulton Hogan guys from here and they are in the same mind as everyone else....They do not want these barriers in the HB. Maybe another avenue of people to approach or even have on side?

In deed! Can you find out if they are involved in the installation of these elsewhere?

Sure, I should be able to make a few calls....Will let you know tomorrow night at some stage.

Will also talk to them about signing the petition too

Forgot about this exchange....did anything eventuate?

[sunhuntin]

that will be interesting to find out exactly how many k of wire exists across new zealand? give that the average length appears to be about 300mt

ive got skunks sticker stuck the 500 windsheild, and still have the red tape on my jacket.

fulton hogan would be a good one to target... they are the ones paid to put barriers up are they?

dont think the hawkes bay is safe... if they can find reason to put 4 seperate stretches between invers and bluff [22k] they will find reason to wire the bay as well.

[MSTRS:Me]

dont think the hawkes bay is safe... if they can find reason to put 4 seperate stretches between invers and bluff [22k] they will find reason to wire the bay as well.

I know we're not safe (yet). I think different areas are 'managed' locally and it depends on whether the individual managers are puppets or can think for themselves...

[Gixxer 4 ever]

I still think the answers are in the PDF file. There are ways to make them safe. Move them 3 meters and cover them with the plastic skins. Page 19 of this PDF file. Look at all the other things that are being done around the world.

I suppose we have done or time on this matter. Guess it is time for BRONZ to take the lead and do the talking or are we going to mobilise again and do something else? If we do we need more than 100 bikes. We need a thousand or more bikes. I guess the bike riders of NZ are just too busy to be bothered to protest. I went to Hamilton from Napier on Sunday and didn't see one rope killer on the road. But in Wellington and Auckland I see shit loads. So the big population in those cities must be happy with the things or they would be up in arms.

So it is in NZ. A law to stop us speaking out about the Government and we do nothing. They will take us away one at a time and shoot us and we will say nothing. They will close down all churches and religious groups and we will say nothing. They will kill all old people and we will realise how stupid we have been but will say nothing. When it is your turn you will realise how stupid we are. You will shout from the roof tops as you are lead away but no one will listen to you. Alone you die, united you have a chance. Don't be sheep. Shout while you have a voice.

[RiderInBlack]

I suppose we have done or time on this matter. Guess it is time for BRONZ to take the lead and do the talking or are we going to mobilise again and do something else? If we do we need more than 100 bikes. We need a thousand or more bikes. I guess the bike riders of NZ are just too busy to be bothered to protest.

The main problem I see with the protest rides as far as numbers were concerned is the movement is still too new. A lot of riders (especially non-Internet ones) are only just catching up with this. The weekend AK one went well seeing it was only put together in two weeks. Week day ones are hard because it's hard ta get the riders there that can take the time off. Taupo for that reason was out of the question. I could have lost up to 3 days of work (I'm broke and can't afford ta loose that much money).

IMHO we still have a MAJOR PR job ahead of us before we get the number of riders behind us. Every Bike publication in NZ needs ta be encourage ta run articles on it (was for the ACC ride). All major MC Clubs need ta be approached and a ride date and place made that works well for as many riders as we can. THIS WILL NEED TO BE A LONG TERM CAMPAIGN. Make it "popular" ta be seen on these rides. Yes there is some major organising ta do here. I just grateful of the work that has been put in so far, but they need more help yet.

[sunhuntin]

if a protest ride is arranged, providing i have at least 3 days notice, i will attend, no matter where it is.

a lot of riders and bike associated people i have spoken to have no idea that we are fighting the barriers, and not many even realise the actual danger they pose.

we need to start getting adverts out there... newspapers, magazines, radio. etc. something to get the message out. feature the car turned into a convertable, and maybe a bike that has been shredded [not featuring any actual bodies, just the vehicle involved]

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Ok lets all have a safe and happy Christmas. I hope we can find an opportunity to put our case in front of the public in the new year. It is true that a lot of people I talk to have no idea what we are on about. It doesn't take long to explain it. A big protest ride that made the media and TVNZ News would make people aware of what was going on. And to all the people that have organised the three runs to date, well done but I recon a big turn out of bikes in Wellington going at 50 kmh in all lanes in peak traffic would make people think. I was a big advocate of "none confrontational" in Taupo. In fact I promised it would be so when I delivered the invitation to the delegates, but when you see how little notice is taken you gota think of other ways. The tractors in Parliament grounds made a difference and the Fart tax was disposed of quick smart. I rest my case.


But what and where? But we need a lot more bikes. How has BRONZ got on with the submission via the political system? Guess that's dead in the water for the next 3 months with holidays and shit laws to gag us are debated in the new year. What else has happened?

[Disco Dan]

Not just us that is worried:

http://www.irishbikerforum.com/forum...0&#entry152969

[VTRRR]

i havnt heard of this before, but i think they look evil. i would show up to protest in chch.

[sunhuntin]

i got my head shaved yesterday, and the young man that did it asked about the red tape on my jacket [left it on from taupo] once i did a quick explanation, his face lit up. both him and a friend had a close encounter with one... he very nearly connected with it, and knows he is lucky to be alive. i meant to tell him the website, but forgot.

so any new plymouth-ers that go to just cuts in the mall [by farmers] tell the good looking young man with the brown hair the website. tell him the #2 girl sent ya.

[WelshWizard]

http://safence.com/Standarde.htm

When you read the artical at the above site you will see what you have to overcome, the standards are flawed as they do not take motorcycles into consideration.

[RiderInBlack]

Noticed WRB/Cheesecutters on the side of the road in the Oakliegh area just South of Whangarei. There ta stop us from going in ta the Mangrove Swamps Why had I not noticed them sooner

[Meekey_Mouse]

Noticed WRB/Cheesecutters on the side of the road in the Oakliegh area just South of Whangarei. There ta stop us from going in ta the Mangrove Swamps Why had I not noticed them sooner

But what if we wanted to go for a swim in the swamp?! I'd much prefer the swamp lol

Sooo... It's '08... What are we doin this year as far as the WRB campaign goes?

[robertydog]

But what if we wanted to go for a swim in the swamp?! I'd much prefer the swamp lol

Sooo... It's '08... What are we doin this year as far as the WRB campaign goes?

Ive noticed how this is going very quiet.