Cheesecutter campaign

[SixPackBack]

Just a thought! With the new motorway extension between Albany and Puhoi it maybe a great opportunity to push hard for a cheesecutter free zone. The time-line is long enough to exert some real pressure and perhaps local picketing or some sort of ride by might help keep the subject in the public's mind. With an election not to far off our local MP Lockwood Smith could be pressured into action, the positive spin could help his campaign.

[sAsLEX]

Just a thought! With the new motorway extension between Albany and Puhoi it maybe a great opportunity to push hard for a cheesecutter free zone. The time-line is long enough to exert some real pressure and perhaps local picketing or some sort of ride by might help keep the subject in the public's mind. With an election not to far off our local MP Lockwood Smith could be pressured into action, the positive spin could help his campaign.

Especially since the new busway got fancy new concrete barriers only a few klicks south of that.

[MSTRS:Me]

Just a thought! With the new motorway extension between Albany and Puhoi it maybe a great opportunity to push hard for a cheesecutter free zone.

Give that man a beer!!
But I thought that particular stretch of new road is to be tolled? In which case, very few if any bikes will use it??

[swbarnett]

Give that man a beer!!
But I thought that particular stretch of new road is to be tolled? In which case, very few if any bikes will use it??

It won't be tolled forever (I hope). Best to get in now before the barriers go in.

Does anyone what type of barrier is planned for this road? No point protesting if they're already intending to use concrete.

[sAsLEX]

Give that man a beer!!
But I thought that particular stretch of new road is to be tolled? In which case, very few if any bikes will use it??

And it will be lacking "Corners", and the old road with bends will be less congested....... what new road?

[James Deuce]

And it will be lacking "Corners", and the old road with bends will be less congested....... what new road?

Remember Alan Wilkinson? He just didn't understand our point of view, did he?

[Bikernereid]

Have spread the word round this neck of the woods so hopefully more people will add signatures to help your campaign. It is just such a shame that your government can't learn from our mistakes, stop being so bloody fiscally driven and be humanitarian for a change!!

Have heard last night that indeed a biker was killed some few years ago, by striking cheesecutter. Was the brother of my step-son's boss. The boss rides too, and we are working on getting hold of him with a view to him joining our ranks...
In the meantime, here is an article I wrote for the local free weekly, the NapierMail. Hope it is readable, as they don't have the page online.

[El Dopa]

Have spread the word round this neck of the woods so hopefully more people will add signatures to help your campaign. It is just such a shame that your government can't learn from our mistakes, stop being so bloody fiscally driven and be humanitarian for a change!!

I think I am correct in saying that UK names on an NZ petition is at best useless and at worst actively damaging. So please don't point UK people towards the NZ on-line petition.

I say this because this is a proper, formal petition, formatted in the correct style for proper submission to government (i.e. it isn't a 'save the gay whales' highstreet job).

Because only NZ citizens/residents are entitled to a say in the NZ legal/democratic/governmental processes, only NZ names wil be counted. A whole bunch of overseas names will at best be discounted, and at worst will 'corrupt' the petition and cause the whole thing to be invalid.

This is my understanding of how these things work. Someone please correct me if this is wrong.

[Bikernereid]

I have noticed that there are non NZ racers who have signed the petition and there is quite strong feeling in some biker circles in the UK regarding this issue. People here want to offer thier support but if it will definitely be detrimental to the cause please let me know.

I would have thought that it is important to raise awareness of this issue outside NZ as it affects the safety of visitors too. I have just spent over 2 weeks on the back of bikes going round the North island and believe me I was very aware of the cheesecutters and the potential damage they can cause. I was only aware of this because of knowing a Kiwi who was living in the UK when the last fatality occured.

I think I am correct in saying that UK names on an NZ petition is at best useless and at worst actively damaging. So please don't point UK people towards the NZ on-line petition.

I say this because this is a proper, formal petition, formatted in the correct style for proper submission to government (i.e. it isn't a 'save the gay whales' highstreet job).

Because only NZ citizens/residents are entitled to a say in the NZ legal/democratic/governmental processes, only NZ names wil be counted. A whole bunch of overseas names will at best be discounted, and at worst will 'corrupt' the petition and cause the whole thing to be invalid.

This is my understanding of how these things work. Someone please correct me if this is wrong.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

People are only pissy about radar detectors because they spent a not insignificant sum of money on them.

I don't understand what the hell ANYONE needs them for.

Because I speed all the time and the R/D makes it an even playing field. What don't you understand.FFS. I will still have one when they are illegal. You can get stealth ones now and build them in to the bikes. So the game goes on. I hate the PC shit that so many adhere to. What happened to being an individual with drive and passion to live life to the full.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Ok, here we go in the new year. I see little happening. So who would be in for a disruptive ride in Auckland and or Wellington? I am talking about riding in all the lanes on the motorway at slow speeds at peak time. Wheelies and stunt riding all over the place with guns and weapons drawn. No number plates and an attack on all police cars that turn up. We are happy to die on the roads so lets go out fighting. Who would support a ride like this? To what extent should we take this action? This is a Government that is very thick skinned and needs a big stick to make it hurt. We have a public that is so burdened with rules and regulations that they can not think. BRONZ is trying but it is prepared to wait for years. So PC. I know about PC and how you have to work in the rules but it is not working so is it time go out side the rules. I will sit on the side and see what sort of reaction this has and decided if it is worth persisting with this or just letting it go and start conforming.

[James Deuce]

Because I speed all the time and the R/D makes it an even playing field. What don't you understand.FFS. I will still have one when they are illegal. You can get stealth ones now and build them in to the bikes. So the game goes on. I hate the PC shit that so many adhere to. What happened to being an individual with drive and passion to live life to the full.

I'm not being PC. I've never had one, and never seen the need, and I'm no angel. I've never had a ticket.

There's no need to be "angry" because I don't subscribe to your world view, or am I not allowed to say, " I don't understand what the hell ANYONE needs them for"?

What happened to common sense, discipline, and control? They're all good non-PC values too. There's plenty of places to go hog wild where no one will see you, especially up your way.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

There's no need to be "angry" because I don't subscribe to your world view, or am I not allowed to say, " I don't understand what the hell ANYONE needs them for"?.

Yes you can say that. And thats all I did. I explained why I have one. People talk about the use of R/D for safety. The only time they work in that field are when Mr Plod leaves his radar on when at an accident. Thats good cos we know to slow down. But we have them to stop the tax take being to high. And why shouldn't we?

What happened to common sense, discipline, and control? They're all good non-PC values too. There's plenty of places to go hog wild where no one will see you, especially up your way.

\Yes I have common sense, discipline, and control. If not I would have had more than one ticket in the last 4 years. None since I have had the R/D. How can we have a system that pushes "speed kills" and then puts up CC to kill us? We don't have the death penalty in NZ for murder but we do for bike riders that make a mistake. Angry?............ you bet......... Why are so many people just sitting on their hands and not doing anything about the CC????
Rather than attack the R/D stay on topic.

Part of the problem here is we have so many threads about this and they have good stuff in them but so many are full of off topic shit and it is impossible to find a thread that is of any use to organise or do anything with. Just what the wankers want. Stay divided and we will achieve nothing. It is my opinion that we are not going to achieve anything with the representation from BRONZ. Some really good stuff is being done here by MSTRS and TART and others but nothing from the masses in Auckland and Wellington. Arr stuff it why bother...........

[yungatart]

You bother, Steve, because you care!
Same as us!
It will be a long road to get these things done away with.
BRONZ will do the "softly, softly, catchee monkey" stuff, whilst KBers (and others) will do the "I'm in your face, and I ain't going away!" stuff.

Don't lose heart, mate. We need you on board doing all the good stuff you do.

The Cheesecutter Resource thread has heaps of valuable "things to do" stuff in it.

[James Deuce]

Right. I'll fuck off then.

Go to hell.