Cheesecutter campaign

[MSTRS:Me]

Apathy rules.
The only thing that will get the masses off their collective lazy arses is...for someone else to get sliced'n'diced.
Any volunteers for that?

Yeah...thought not

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Yeah...thought not

Like I said a while ago. Looks like that’s it then.

Time to forget this and get on with life. A shame but I am old enough to know that sometimes the things we chase and see as important just don’t count in the eyes of others.

Well done to everyone that made a stand and put in the time and effort with this.

[Jiminy]

Mmmmmmh, hope we haven't seen the last of it. To be honest, besides the protest ride, I have no idea of how the campaign is organised, who runs it and how. Anyone can help?

In the mean time, here is another idea. Not sure how good it is, so I put it out there for opinions.

Instead of local rides, we could have a big ride across the island, for example from Auckland to Wellington. The campaign flag would start from Auckland and be relayed across the island the whole day until it reaches the parliament. You would need a few volunteers to transport the flag for each section of road, and everyone could join the flag ride on the way for as long as they wish. The main issue would be to have enough bikers to populate the ride along the way.

What do you guys think?

[WelshWizard]

Why not start right up north and have bikes join as they pass through each town or city, If I can get time off work I would be in for that, but I would only be travelling at about 80 KPH as I have just blown up one bike and the next ones not yet run in.

[sunhuntin]

im in for that, no worries. [flag size dependant]

maybe start where the seal starts sth of reinga?

[WelshWizard]

Maybe as this run is likely to be a winter run all those who have cars or vans should use them instead of bikes,
1/
They take up more space on the motorway,
2/
We can have larger posters and flags on 4 wheels than two.
3/
It also get the message across that its not just Motorcyclist that are shouting about these things.
4/
Maybe other road uses will look a bit more closely at these WRB,s instead of just thinking its a bike only issue.

Any comments on this as an idea, as unless we plan the run 6 months ahead we will have a lot of summer only riders missing.

[sunhuntin]

good idea. flags can be risky on bikes.

[Zapf]

hi all.

Reading thru this I like what Ixion has proposed.... but discussion should move off a public site perhaps?

Regarding the people helping with the 1st protest, most of us have some personal issues / work that is stopping us from helping. I will do whatever I can to help.

I have setup a private email list previously. If you guys think that would be useful I can start that up again.

Do you think we can just piss off any road works? or CC installations?

[sunhuntin]

hi zapf... im up for whatever worked last time... hell, im up for anything! just something to get attention from those who ignore us.

[WelshWizard]

Hi Zapf, getting things into a private place would be good as then LTNZ and any Police that want to know whats going on will have to try and second guess, and then they can be wrong as much as they like.

[candor]

Has anyone put in OIA's to see what amount of risk is accepted from barrier types for bikers on various barrier projects past and going up?

The nswer would prolly be "request declined as the info does not exist" but it could be worth fishing by asking if Transit has ever costed putting on the barriers over the graters to reduce biker risk exposure on any stretch of existing WRBs.

A pointed question about say the worst wrb for bikers based on position and biker traffic volume and whether a covering has been considered or costed on that strip (once identified) might turn up some budget mindedness or else suggest a good idea to the decision makers - given each OIA question and answer is passed by the most senior bureaucrat if not Minister.

[Grub]

Does anyone have the addresss for the person collecting petiton forms? We jhave some more signed ones that we'd like to get into the central pool.

[Mom]

Does anyone have the addresss for the person collecting petiton forms? We jhave some more signed ones that we'd like to get into the central pool.

P O Box 105 005 Auckland City Post Shop, Auckland 1143

I am expecting the delivery of the signed forms to date in the next few days so I can begin to collate and count them. Wll be good to see how many we have collected and how many we may need to still get.

[MSTRS:Me]

Great. I have close to 60 pages that have been gathering dust....

[Zapf]

I have setup a private email list previously.

Can those who are interested in moving the discussion to a more private location PM me with their email address and their name. I will add you to the list and also forward you the details of how to use it.

Cheers
Zapf