Cheesecutter campaign

[Ocean1]

and there is a forming machine that will do just that. In the resource thread there is a link to a film put out by Britain's Transit-equivalent that shows it in action.
Watch it here http://www.safermotorways.co.uk/feature31_video_003.htm

I believe there's one lurking down at the new interchange at Normandale in the Hutt here. Belongs to a contractor and they apparently use it for temporary barriers 'cause it's more cost effective than most of the "temporary" options.

[WelshWizard]

This is an example of where people here get the impression that we are also calling for the barriers removal.

I note you make no comment about the pros of hitting the WRB's , there posts, and wire anchors, As Misters has stated all we want is the WRB's to be modified so there are no longer a health and safety issue for motorcyclist, and if this is not possible replaced with a barrier that's is, no one has asked for the removal of a barrier without replacement without a safe alternative.

Maybe we should ask you if you are prepared to demonstrate how safe WRB's are by giving some sort of demonstration.

[scumdog]

A waste of time - how many m/c deaths are cheese-cutter related as opposed to cars vs bike or even (shock-horror) deaths caused by people not able to keep on the road (WITHOUT cheese-cutters being there)??

[WelshWizard]

A waste of time - how many m/c deaths are cheese-cutter related as opposed to cars vs bike or even (shock-horror) deaths caused by people not able to keep on the road (WITHOUT cheese-cutters being there)??

Do a search on Google and see how many times Car drivers have paid the ultimate price for WRB design failures , one jumps to mind this year when four female students died because the WRB failed and there car went under the WRB, so now four sets of parents grieve for their not even 21 year old daughters who were only coming how from school, these things stop some but not all, and as for lorries if they hit at an angle of over 20 degrees they just go straight over the top as if they weren't there. at least with Concrete barriers, they stop cross over's, and first responders don't have to deal with headless school children on who were on there way home from school.

[scumdog]

Do a search on Google and see how many times Car drivers have paid the ultimate price for WRB design failures , one jumps to mind this year when four female students died because the WRB failed and there car went under the WRB, so now four sets of parents grieve for their not even 21 year old daughters who were only coming how from school, these things stop some but not all, and as for lorries if they hit at an angle of over 20 degrees they just go straight over the top as if they weren't there. at least with Concrete barriers, they stop cross over's, and first responders don't have to deal with headless school children on who were on there way home from school.

Yaeh, a plain head-on would be waay more better eh?? pfft.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

I simply avoid all objects on the road...

[riffer]

I believe there's one lurking down at the new interchange at Normandale in the Hutt here. Belongs to a contractor and they apparently use it for temporary barriers 'cause it's more cost effective than most of the "temporary" options.

Really? Perhaps we could liberate that sucker and do some work on the Moonshine Bridge cheesecutters...

[idb]

I simply avoid all objects on the road...

I'm kinda the same NH!

[scumdog]

I simply avoid all objects on the road...

And I object to all thing in my road.... but I know what ya mean.

[Ocean1]

Really? Perhaps we could liberate that sucker and do some work on the Moonshine Bridge cheesecutters...

Wonder what top speed is... and how fast we could feed it.

Fuckit, I see a custom blown bigblock powered median laying machine and a small fleet of stealth concrete delivery trucks.

Staff wanted for covert impromptu WRB encapsulation missions eh?

Way easier to design a jiffy saw on a camaflaged container truck though, reckon with about 1000hp you'd prune them fuckers at ground level at the speed limit.

Bit noisy p'raps...



Edit: some info here we may not yet have, under "safety": http://www.tac-atc.ca/techtrans/archive/v5n4/index.htm

[Katman]

I note you make no comment about the pros of hitting the WRB's , there posts, and wire anchors.

As I've said before, until motorcyclists are seen, as a whole, to be taking more responsibility for their own well being on the road by adopting a more responsible approach to their riding then the anti WRB campaigners will continue to be seen as little more than a bunch of whining Grandstanders.

[NighthawkNZ:Me]

And I object to all thing in my road.... but I know what ya mean.

especially sheep

[spongebob]

hi everyone i have been involved in some serious talk about the said cheese cutters so i thought id have my say while i see it on here aswell.
please note no offence to anyone intended
when the first majour fatality incident occured this topic come up at my bike club and every one dropped there knitting needles and complained how bad they were
this was the 1st fatality to the wires so i asked how many people have died hitting power poles.
the reply was in the hundreds in the hundreds
so my reply was well who gives a f about a wire rope lets rip them down they killing us by the dozzen

[spongebob]

you see my point is this
if thats what the country can put up to stop a truck or car crossing the division and improve my chances then thats what it will have to be i know its not perfect but what is concreat no thanks steel gurder doesnt look much softer either way if you f up and hit it its not looking good
ride to the conditions and within reason and avoid them altogether

[RiderInBlack]

you see my point is this
if thats what the country can put up to stop a truck or car crossing the division ...

But they (WRB) aren't working at stopping trucks crossing the division. Noted riding back from the GC on Monday that they were repairing the WRB on the Motorway North between Albany and Silverdale. Could see the mark on the road from the accident damaging them and it was obvious that what ever had gone through the WRB, it had gone right across the on-coming lines (all three of them) after going through the WRB. Anyone have the details of that accident? As proves yet again that they are not working.