Cheesecutter campaign

[Gixxer 4 ever]

this was the 1st fatality to the wires so i asked how many people have died hitting power poles.
the reply was in the hundreds in the hundreds
them down they killing us by the dozzen

You will note that a lot of poles have been removed from the road side in the last 20 years. For all sorts of reasons. So if the poles are going and or being fitted with, snap off sections at the base, so should the dangers of WRB be revisited. Someone might die this weekend because of the WRB. A smooth flat concrete surface is better than a cheese cutting surface. No chance with a WRB, heaps with concrete.

so my reply was well who gives a f about a wire rope

Everyone here. I will be in Auckland this weekend and hope I get home again.

[Mom]

so my reply was well who gives a f about a wire rope

Me for one. I come at this issue from a couple of sides. Firstly as a motorcyclist, these barriers are dangerous no question about it. Even at relatively low speeds these things have the potential to remove limbs. Now I dont know about you, but I take every precaution I can to keep myself safe when I am riding, try to mitigate the dangers that we face as bikers. There is nothing I can do to mitigate the danger these things pose to me, apart from not riding on roads that have them installed. For me that would mean that I would not be albe to ride very far at all. You dont have to be hooning to collide with one, something as simple as a tyre blowout or engine seizure can result in loss of control of your ride, a strong gust of wind can change your position on the road in a split second, heaven help you if it happens along side a WRB.

The second angle I take on them is simple. They do not stop cross over accidents! It is well documented that trucks go over them as do cars in some instances. They require a "catch zone" either side of them anyway as the ropes take up the impact of a vehicle. Where these things are installed as a median barrier with no catch zone, the impact of a vehicle will send it into the opposing lane no worries.

These things are dangerous, they are becoming more and more widespread, I believe the economics of the initial installation plays a bigger part than any safety worries to the powers that be. Interestingly enough, they are actually more expensive to maintain than concrete barriers long term.

[TOTO]

Now with summer on its way , and some good weather isn't it time we did another cheese cutter awareness ride ?

[Gixxer 4 ever]

So are we going to hold up traffic and fuck the Wellington and or Auckland public off?

Bitch Clark likes silent protests cos she doesn’t have to listen to them. If we are silent we may as well not bother cos Key will think the same on this issue. Hard boot camp for youth and long prison terms for repeat offenders and life for making a mistake and hitting a wire rope barrier.


So it is militant or nothing in my opinion. Just how many here would be militant to the point of being arrested? So how much do people here really care? Can you live with a conviction and or still do your job?

When I was in Auckland I have to admit the WRB were less threatening. Like all things we become less intimidated as time passes.

[Katman]

So are we going to hold up traffic and fuck the Wellington and or Auckland public off?

Looks like you're on your own there bro.

Knock yourself out.

[sinfull]

No wait !!!!!!!!

Edit : tooo late its tommorrow somewhere !

[Gixxer 4 ever]

When the Government wanted to put us outa business with the fart tax we took it to them on tractors and changed the law.
When the government wanted to shit on the trucking industry they took it to them and changed things.
But we only ride bikes so if we die who gives a shit? After all we still make riders aye?
And Clark did say she likes silent protest. She said it is good because she doesn’t have to listen to them. So I have been to two protest rides that she never had to listen to us.

However I realise people just don’t care cos we ran a helicopter fund raiser here, along with the rest of the KB regions, and we expected 30-40 bikes in the Hawkes Bay, and got 103 on the ride. We are off to the toy run tomorrow and should get 80-90 bikes? Maybe. We headed to Parliament with the WRB protest run in Wellington and got 6 bikes and when we went to Taupo for the protest ride I think we got 8 from Hawkes Bay. So maybe we are flogging a dead horse here.
If you really want to know what I think PM me cos I can’t express how I feel about this apathy on a public forum when it touches some people very closely.

[MSTRS:Me]

We are off to the toy run tomorrow and should get 80-90 bikes?

There were some 200 last year. It's not the cause that attracts, but the perception of that cause.
I'd rather protest about something that could kill me (when that something is supposedly to protect me) than I would ride and donate a toy to some kid whose parent/s can't manage the money we give them.

[WelshWizard]

Now we have a new Mob in the beehive in 6 weeks has any one sounded out the Key issues with them over how they will be handling the WRB's?

If they are not interested then maybe its time to take a ride at the best time off day to snarl things up, after all if we are using the road to get from A to B and we do not brake the law IE stay inside the speed limit, no unicycles etc,

Who knows as they are new to power they may even look on they safety issue of these WRB's in a favorable manner.

[TOTO]

Isnt there a way to tie together the westpack helicopter ride (the big one) with a wire rope barrier protest ?

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Isnt there a way to tie together the westpack helicopter ride (the big one) with a wire rope barrier protest ?

We did carry the flag, literally, when we had the fund raiser here last year and we did announce the concerns we had when we ran the run last year.

I felt it just confused people. We asked for donations on the street for the Chopper and then talked about the WRB and some people got turned off by that and wanted to know what the money was going to be used for.

It is my opinion that the Chopper fund raiser should be for the Chopper alone. Just my 2cnts worth.

[sunhuntin]

if i recall, didnt some of the chopper crew agree with the danger of the barriers?

[Hitcher]

New government guys. New minister. New opportunity...

[Mom]

New government guys. New minister. New opportunity...

Quite. Gently, gently, catchy, monkey

[MSTRS:Me]

New government guys. New minister. New opportunity...

Quite. Gently, gently, catchy, monkey

Actually, one would hope that a new minister will instruct the Transit minions in our 'favour'. But chances are that the same old shit will continue. You know...the one that goes "My advisors tell me...". And who do you think the advisors work for?
I would like to dump the cynical hat. But I seriously doubt that we will get any better response than before.
As others have said in the past...Time to get proactive. And militant.