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    Quote Originally Posted by ZeroIndex View Post
    ....... I'm not gonna argue that inline4's are better than singles or even v-twins on dirt... they make motards and dirtbikes mostly as singles, and occasionally v-twins. Although one would ponder (please answer if you know the true actual reason) that they use air-cooled singles just because dirt/gravel isn't exactly friendly on a bike?
    Not professing to know or fully understand but first point is power delivery - more low to mid range on a single (relative to total power delivery). Also power pulses per rev on a single is less, hence less likely of letting go and keeping on spinning. I guess it is a form of traction control having a single. Ya ever seen a single using power to let the back end loose at 200kph like a MotoGP bike or even 100kph for that matter.

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    MHO on the single multi twin experience comes down to keeping dirt/speedway/gravel bikes light.
    Its easy to accelerate on gravel, as forward motion provided by a rear wheel drive is simple to control. However, slowing on loose surfaces, lining up entry/exit points, and making line changes is made easier by reducing mass, (an also tweaking frame/steering geometry).
    This is a simplistic, and brief view of what is a very involved topic. But light weight m/cycles are most suitable, hence multi's and heavy Scramblers could never hope to compete with bikes like KTM's Husky's etc. But straight line dirt drags.......give me a Busa(suitable tractor tyres not included)

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    Looks different, maybe my next bike should be a hybrid? - thanks for the post!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tri boy View Post
    MHO on the single multi twin experience comes down to keeping dirt/speedway/gravel bikes light.
    Its easy to accelerate on gravel, as forward motion provided by a rear wheel drive is simple to control. However, slowing on loose surfaces, lining up entry/exit points, and making line changes is made easier by reducing mass, (an also tweaking frame/steering geometry).
    This is a simplistic, and brief view of what is a very involved topic. But light weight m/cycles are most suitable, hence multi's and heavy Scramblers could never hope to compete with bikes like KTM's Husky's etc. But straight line dirt drags.......give me a Busa(suitable tractor tyres not included)
    So that's how they went that fast in Biker Boyz (and slowed down too)... The one guy used a Busa...
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    Quote Originally Posted by tri boy View Post
    MHO on the single multi twin experience comes down to keeping dirt/speedway/gravel bikes light.
    Its easy to accelerate on gravel, as forward motion provided by a rear wheel drive is simple to control. However, slowing on loose surfaces, lining up entry/exit points, and making line changes is made easier by reducing mass, (an also tweaking frame/steering geometry).
    This is a simplistic, and brief view of what is a very involved topic. But light weight m/cycles are most suitable, hence multi's and heavy Scramblers could never hope to compete with bikes like KTM's Husky's etc. But straight line dirt drags.......give me a Busa(suitable tractor tyres not included)
    It doesn't matter how much power you have,using dirt focused tyres you have practically the same footprint to put that power through no matter what the bike.And slowing down is definetly the most important part....you can control power output with the right hand,but stopping these heavy beasts is the hard part.

    Singles put the power down better than any other engine configuration.Oh yeah,V twins put it down well.....but a 750cc single can sure put some power to the ground too! Although multis produce some serious wheelspin,I find they are easy to control on the throttle - I tend to snap the throttle open and then deal with what happens.With a multi I work from the other end....use the throttle to get the action I want.Multis do very well at sidecar speedwy - but they are working on the friction method of traction,it works with a sidecar,but is not very practical on 2 wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tri boy View Post
    Whaddaya reckon?

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    I'm not totally convinced the inline multi power delivery would suit the gravel. Likewise the exposed radiator.

    The frame looks good though.

    Perhaps a supercharged big bore single may be more to my liking.
    And I to my motorcycle parked like the soul of the junkyard. Restored, a bicycle fleshed with power, and tore off. Up Highway 106 continually drunk on the wind in my mouth. Wringing the handlebar for speed, wild to be wreckage forever.

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