Cheesecutter website launch

**Sanx** · 2nd November 2007, 09:52

Ladies and Gentlemen

The 'official' cheesecutter website is now up and running at www.cheesecutter.co.nz

You can sign an online version of the petition, download the printable petition form, find out details of the protest rides, find out who to contact to make your concerns known and get in touch with the ride organisers. There'll also be details about the barriers going up as soon as the information has been collated and sorted.

If you're going to sign the paper version of the petition, please don't sign the online version, and vice versa. The Parliament Clerk responsible will check for sugnature duplicates and we want to avoid any chance of the petition being voided on a technicality.

If anyone has any content-related suggestions for the site, or if you see any errors that'd make Hitcher mad, please let me know via PM.

Regards,

D.

**UberRhys** · 2nd November 2007, 10:38

Originally Posted by Sanx

Ladies and Gentlemen

The 'official' cheesecutter website is now up and running at www.cheesecutter.co.nz

You can sign an online version of the petition

Done and done.

See you Saturday at Ramarama.

**Hitcher** · 2nd November 2007, 11:24

Apart from my usual reservations about who "us" is and what "getting involved" means or entails, what Bronz or "Kiwi Biker" (one is a legal entity, the other isn't) are indeed supporting, that Cheesecutter web site looks just fine. Good effort all round.

**Fub@r** · 2nd November 2007, 11:54

One of the research report links doesn't work. Might pay to replace with another one or check the link address

Also PM sent Sanx

**car** · 2nd November 2007, 12:26

Originally Posted by Hitcher

Apart from my usual reservations about who "us" is and what "getting involved" means or entails, what Bronz or "Kiwi Biker" (one is a legal entity, the other isn't) are indeed supporting

Or what constitutes "use" of WRBs. It might be splitting hairs, but the initial aim was to prevent any further installations and modify existing barriers. To some, a moratorium on "use" might constitute "removal".

**Sanx** · 2nd November 2007, 12:34

Originally Posted by k14

I see you fail to mention the speeds at which he was going when he hit the cheesecutter?

That's been subject to speculation, I believe. The Police stated what they 'thought' without having waited for the accident investigation team to complete their findings.

Originally Posted by Fub@r

One of the research report links doesn't work. Might pay to replace with another one or check the link address

Thanks for the heads up. Now fixed.

Originally Posted by car

Or what constitutes "use" of WRBs. It might be splitting hairs, but the initial aim was to prevent any further installations and modify existing barriers. To some, a moratorium on "use" might constitute "removal".

The petition is calling for a moratorium on the use of such barriers (bit to late now but maybe 'installation' would have been a better term until the completion of a review investigating WRB safety, particularly to motorcyclists. We're not calling for them all to be dug out of the ground (as good as that would be) but for an investigation to be done intohow dangerous they are and various ways in which the current situation can be rectified - and one option may well be to dig them all up.

**Hitcher** · 2nd November 2007, 12:45

Originally Posted by Sanx

We're not calling...

As I said, it's not clear who "we" or "us" is. Bronz is a legal entity with paid-up members, a charter, elected officers and mechanisms for determining if its members support (or not) issues that may or may not be relevant to motorcyclists. I have difficulty understanding "who" the Cheesecutter campaign is and what mandate it carries, other than the support of a bunch of likeminded individuals who want to ride in protest.

These comments should not be taken as lack of support for the "campaign" or its objective to get unsafe road barriers removed or remedied.

**DMNTD:Me** · 2nd November 2007, 12:48

Signed and link forwarded to all in my address book asking for them to forward to all in their address books.

**Sanx** · 2nd November 2007, 15:15

Originally Posted by Hitcher

As I said, it's not clear who "we" or "us" is. Bronz is a legal entity with paid-up members, a charter, elected officers and mechanisms for determining if its members support (or not) issues that may or may not be relevant to motorcyclists. I have difficulty understanding "who" the Cheesecutter campaign is and what mandate it carries, other than the support of a bunch of likeminded individuals who want to ride in protest.

These comments should not be taken as lack of support for the "campaign" or its objective to get unsafe road barriers removed or remedied.

"We, the undersigned, ..."

Therefore 'we' is the people who sign the petition.

**"D" FZ1** · 2nd November 2007, 15:17

I have signed the Petition. The bloody things should be banned

**Karma** · 2nd November 2007, 16:48

Originally Posted by Sanx

That's been subject to speculation, I believe. The Police stated what they 'thought' without having waited for the accident investigation team to complete their findings.

So have you.