View Poll Results: So are we overanalysing our riding?

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  • I add every piece of advice to my riding, no matter how odd it might sound

    3 3.37%
  • I try out everything, keeping what works for me

    72 80.90%
  • I've never taken any advice from anyone

    4 4.49%
  • How could I improve my riding? I'm perfect as it is

    10 11.24%
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Thread: Overanalysing your riding

  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob
    Or to put it another way - concentrate on where you are going not where you are! You - and the bike - will follow your eyes. This is why people see a hazard and have an accident... it is called "hazard fixation" - you see The Thing That Can Hurt You... you keep looking at The Thing That Can Hurt You... and the bike follows your eyes and HITS The Thing That Can Hurt You.

    Wrench your gaze away and you'll get round The Thing more often that not.

    By the "long line", I'm assuming you are referring to the Vanishing Point?

    Of course, this assumes a clear road. With traffic around, your set of reference points changes and your scanning needs to take in both short and long views, as well as lights, wheel direction etc.

    Erm, I think we've started overanalysing again...
    Yeah look were you want to go,not were you don,t,the bike does the rest.
    I ride a local road were you come over a crest and can see the whole of the next three corners.Must be the three best corners in NZ,,,wonder why

  2. #32
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob
    Or to put it another way - concentrate on where you are going not where you are! You - and the bike - will follow your eyes. This is why people see a hazard and have an accident... it is called "hazard fixation" - you see The Thing That Can Hurt You... you keep looking at The Thing That Can Hurt You... and the bike follows your eyes and HITS The Thing That Can Hurt You.

    Wrench your gaze away and you'll get round The Thing more often that not.

    By the "long line", I'm assuming you are referring to the Vanishing Point?

    Of course, this assumes a clear road. With traffic around, your set of reference points changes and your scanning needs to take in both short and long views, as well as lights, wheel direction etc.

    Erm, I think we've started overanalysing again...
    In traffic my eyes are all over the place looking for hazards. No interested in riding the edge here. Out on the highway under the right conditions another story but still don't push the edge like the young'uns. Yep the long line could be called the vanishing point. It's that part of the road that comes into view as you enter and exit the curve. You are right about the over analysing bit fun here but can be a bit dangerous out on the road. The interesting thing about this long and short line thing is that I have been riding smaller road bikes mainly to get to work. We 175 Yam and a 250 Honda. On the smaller and slower bike it is not neccessary to look so far ahead as on a bigger faster bike. As a result I had got out of the habit of taking the long line. Just rediscoverd it on the Reefton trip. It makes one hell of a difference as you are concentrating on line and not how far you have too lean the bike over as with the shorter line.

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  3. #33
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    Funnily enough, I just ahd a good conversation with young MOTOXXX. Seems a good acident is all it takes to make you appreciate the things that, although unlikely, can happen.

    Prepare for the worst, you'll go far.

    But I'm perfect.
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  4. #34
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    I dont analyze anything,just jump on and off I go.All the stuff I`ve picked up over the years is in my head and I no more consciously think where to brake,how far to lean or whatever than I think about exactly where to place one foot in front of another when I walk down the street.By the same token as I walk down the street I`m aware of everything around me and living in this wonderful country of ours can weigh up any potential aggro,look out for traffic,notice things around me and make a detour if nescessary without having to stop and scratch my head every few minutes.On the bike it`s the same,I`m aware of everything going on,road conditions,other road-users,hazards,you name it but I take it all in my stride.I dont need to do the "talk to yourself" bit because I take everything in sub-consciously anyway,it`s called experience/being an old fart with blisters on his arse from decades of riding.Only time I ever analyse my riding is if I`m on a new bike when I`ll take it out for a few hours to acclimatise,usually out on the road for a couple of hours then find a quiet car-park to see what happens when you lock the brakes up,check out the low-speed handling e.t.c.,worse way to find out your bike has hair-trigger brakes is when a taxi pulls across the road in front of you.If you do overdo it and fall off in an empty car-park then o.k. so it`s a bummer but at least there wont be a bus up your arse to mow you down when you hit the deck.

  5. #35
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    All this "line " stuff does is remind me of fishing.

  6. #36
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    Personally I just go with the flow. I do listen and try most things I hear about out but not always relevant due to diff bike/rider size etc.
    Problem is if I "think" too much it throws me off my riding
    Always looking to improve though...hell I need to!

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