L plate. It is not an option.

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 3rd November 2007, 15:50

Originally Posted by fredie

your a L plater . bbbbbaaahhhhhhh aaaaahhhhhh .no ?? L plate for saftey

so car drivers give u extra space

Some people do say tcage drivers see the L-Plate as a target... Was following Xaira home from Palmerston a while back... (maybe only the 5th or 6th time out) and a cage past me and split the two of us and proceeded to tail gate Xaria through some twisties (dangerously) she did very well and just kept riding her ride, it wasn't as if she was holding up traffic either... If she got pulled over for breaking the 70kph rule I said to her I would pay fine myself

While he was tail gating I saw in the front seat a young kid look up and actually looked a little worried, (must admitt I started to tail gate him a bit to try and get past to get him to back off a bit so I am also in the wrong for tail gating... but me blood was boiling...)

Problem... would that cage driver tail gated me, on the larger bike... well he could have but he past me and went in between the two bikes...

Would he have done the same thing if there was a larger group of bikes... most likely...

Would he tail gate any other cage on the road... well he past Xaria eventually... and we caught up again he was sitting back from the other cages...

Was he an arse hole... yes, was it that he saw the L-Plate, I doubt it, but he should have backed off once he did.

Over all if he had stopped I would have stopped and lost my temper and probably now be up for asault.

**Xaria** · 3rd November 2007, 16:22

I must say one *positive* thing about the L plate. One of my first times on the road, Nighthawk saw someone behind me at my (low)speed and could see when they saw the L Plate and then backed off. Sometimes a target, sometimes a warning. Beware everything

**NighthawkNZ:Me** · 3rd November 2007, 16:26

Originally Posted by Xaria

I must say one *positive* thing about the L plate. One of my first times on the road, Nighthawk saw someone behind me at my (low)speed and could see when they saw the L Plate and then backed off. Sometimes a target, sometimes a warning. Beware everything

oh yeah... I forgot to add that bit to... that time made me smile and think there still are some considerate people out there with there head screwed on correctly when they get behind the wheel...

**sunhuntin** · 3rd November 2007, 16:28

he probably never even saw the plate...

i got gated last weekend by a chrysler. my l plate has done about 25,000k and been on 3 bikes... theres not much left of it. eventually, he overtook me and gated the friend i was riding with, who was on a gsxr thou [i think!] so the l plate didnt even come into it. normally, i will either pull over and let them go [if im riding a new twisty road, and know im holding up traffic] or, if im in town and already pushing 50, i will sometimes slam both brakes on and come to an almost complete stop before twisting and taking off. dangerous, but works. [thats after weaving, and tapping brake]

what i hate is when someone tails me, and then refuses to overtake when its a passing lane and ive slowed from 110k to about 80k. you want to inspect my exhaust? or are you checking the tread on my tyre? no? then fuck off!

**fireliv** · 3rd November 2007, 16:32

I liked my L Plate, people give you room, sometimes I feel like attaching it for memories sake......

Wear ure L plate people, it aint worth the cost

**Neon** · 3rd November 2007, 19:15

Originally Posted by fireliv

I liked my L Plate, people give you room, sometimes I feel like attaching it for memories sake......

Wear ure L plate people, it aint worth the cost

I thought about this subject long and hard, and I'm keeping the L plate on. I don't need any more help to part with my cash.

**klingon** · 3rd November 2007, 22:25

Originally Posted by EJKDDORAI

After 4 month and 9000km of riding on my lovely Scorpio, EJKDDORAI has been finally busted

...[snip]...

Dangers: The officer told me that I did not indicate left while entering the gap on my left (in fact at that time I was indicating right). The danger was, an Audi was accelerating from that side. I did not see that. He then told me that I could have been crushed twice. Not once but twice. How stupid was I?!

The guy got pulled over on this thread is me. There was a biker officer and the car. I know what I have done wrong. I will not be disappointed receiving some red blings for the story.
Most importantly, I will respect law and safeties since the fines are not against us, they are for us.

MacktheKnife and Maverick once told me, “The mindless ego boost will surely come back to you. But what it matter is ‘how fast’”. Yes, it did come back to me. I presume sooner or later at the young age blood, it will come back again. Hopefully till then and after, I would ride safer than ever.

Ride safe EJ

EJKDDORAI

EJ, I'm delighted to see that you have listened to and understood what the police officer was saying to you about safety. You're a wonderful young man, I enjoyed riding with you yesterday, and I hope you have many years of safe and happy riding ahead of you.

Please remember, lane splitting is optional. It is not compulsory. It should only be done when conditions permit it, and in a safe manner. I would rather see you pulled over by the police 100 times, than crushed by an Audi! Please take care!

**Littleman** · 3rd November 2007, 23:39

Originally Posted by klingon

EJ, I'm delighted to see that you have listened to and understood what the police officer was saying to you about safety. You're a wonderful young man, I enjoyed riding with you yesterday, and I hope you have many years of safe and happy riding ahead of you.

Please remember, lane splitting is optional. It is not compulsory. It should only be done when conditions permit it, and in a safe manner. I would rather see you pulled over by the police 100 times, than crushed by an Audi! Please take care!

It's motorcycling mate, we all take risks. If your going to take slightly more obvious ones (such as breach of licence conditions) ride accordingly.

Minimise their excuse to pull you over. From your post, your clearly not a maniac, just play the game.

Yeah, it hurts.

**discotex** · 4th November 2007, 18:45

Stink EJ!

Here's a deal that might make you feel better. If you plan another Coro loop run and I can make it along I'll pay for your gas.

**Donor** · 4th November 2007, 19:58

Originally Posted by discotex

Stink EJ!

Here's a deal that might make you feel better. If you plan another Coro loop run and I can make it along I'll pay for your gas.

Top bloke... I shall return the karma by shouting you a beer/beverage in the future...

**EJK** · 4th November 2007, 20:05

lol thanks but it's ok
Don't bother spending $30 bux for a loser who didn't had his L plate

**Pancakes** · 4th November 2007, 20:13

Originally Posted by sunhuntin

............what i hate is when someone tails me, and then refuses to overtake when its a passing lane and ive slowed from 110k to about 80k. you want to inspect my exhaust? or are you checking the tread on my tyre? no? then fuck off!

Yeah what the hell is up with that? I was going down the NW'ern in the car the other night and was doing maybe 20kph more than what looked like one car in the left lane. As I went by I saw it was a young girl sitting a few meters/less than counting "one" behind an old lady! The old lady was checking her mirror heaps and looked worried. I have no idea why the girl didn't just go around, there was heaps of road available to use.

Oh thats why, cos people are idiots and I don't think many tialgaters are actually planning anything, they just stick to your ass with no thought for the consequences.

I think I've gotten away with stuff I shouldn't have in the car purely because I had enough room for my errors to be corrected. Time and a place stuff.

**Pancakes** · 4th November 2007, 20:18

Originally Posted by EJKDDORAI

lol thanks but it's ok
Don't bother spending $30 bux for a loser who didn't had his L plate

He's high on crack and didn't mean that! As EJ's legal representive I accept your offer and will fill the gap buy purchasing Donor and EJ a beverage in the future too.

Come on my ride EJ, Sweeeeeet as!

**sunhuntin** · 4th November 2007, 20:47

Originally Posted by Pancakes

Yeah what the hell is up with that? I was going down the NW'ern in the car the other night and was doing maybe 20kph more than what looked like one car in the left lane. As I went by I saw it was a young girl sitting a few meters/less than counting "one" behind an old lady! The old lady was checking her mirror heaps and looked worried. I have no idea why the girl didn't just go around, there was heaps of road available to use.

Oh thats why, cos people are idiots and I don't think many tialgaters are actually planning anything, they just stick to your ass with no thought for the consequences.

I think I've gotten away with stuff I shouldn't have in the car purely because I had enough room for my errors to be corrected. Time and a place stuff.

yeh... i had a car load of older guys do that when i was headed back from new plymouth... nice, long uphill passing lane... it went for ages. one of the best on that route. i hit the hill at about 110/120, and finished at the top going between 90 and 100. i was doing 70 by the time i forced them to pass.... after which they then pulled into the pub just a few k up the road. wankers.

the chick in the car probably didnt even realise how close she was... too busy txting or whatever. pity we cant enforce cameras in cars that would focus out the window and beep when ever we got closer than the conditions recommended. like, in your situation, hers would beep, but in rush hour traffic when things are basically at a standstill, it wouldnt.