Fund-raising For Cheesecutter Campaign

[Hitcher]

Pretty negative there Mr Hitcher.

Formal governance stuff will fall to BRONZ. That's why BRONZ is tightly coordinated into the KB Cheesecutter campaign.

That's not an unusual model. Do you imagine that every person who turns up at a Greenpeace protest is actually a member. Or that everyone who protested against the Springbok tours was a member of HART ?

RIB is simply asking for an opportunity to kick in some coin to cover the out of pocket costs of the campaign organisers so far. Sounds reasonable enough to me.

As I haven't heard you come up with any alternative plans, I presume your suggestion is that everyone sit on their hands and wait for the next rider to be cut in half, like patient little sheep ?

Bronz is, in my opinion, an appropriate mechanism to work the campaign through to a conclusion. I think we're talking at cross-purposes with a strong likelihood of agreeing.

And if you feel compelled to have a cheap shot at me, good on you. I won't be returning the favour.

[Big Dave]

It would require a vote, but I would support some defraying of costs by BRONZ should the matter be presented to a meeting.
(Sounds like a PFJ meeting!)

I agree with Hitcher's position 100%.

As stated by Spank - KB is a communications device to be employed.
Privately owned and accountable as such.

BRONZ endeavours to meet all statutory requirements and due process.
I urge all riders to join and support.

DC
Akl Vice President.

Is it open slather Hitcher shots did you say?

[Mrs Busa Pete]

It would require a vote, but I would support some defraying of costs by BRONZ should the matter be presented to a meeting.

I agree with Hitcher's position 100%.

As stated by Spank - KB is a communications device to be employed.
Privately owned and accountable as such.

BRONZ endeavours to meet all statutory requirements and due process.
I urge all riders to join and support.

DC
Akl Vice President.

Is it open slather Hitcher shots did you say?

So how do you join Bronz

[Big Dave]

So how do you join Bronz

http://www.bronz.org.nz/join.html


PS - the free Hitcher shot is note use of lower case on an acronym.

[RiderInBlack]

RIB is simply asking for an opportunity to kick in some coin to cover the out of pocket costs of the campaign organisers so far. Sounds reasonable enough to me.

Got it in one People running this will already be out of pocket. I want to help them. What is wrong with that.

I should be able to donate to a campaign without having to be a member of the organisation running it. People donate to Green Peace, The Foundation Of The Blind, Cancer Soc., etc., without being a member. Why should this be any different.

What's more, we should not be getting in to a shit fight over who should be running this campaign. Do that and we all lose accept Land Transport NZ

[RiderInBlack]

I take it that the Cheesecutter Campaign doesn't want any of my money ta help I know I don't have much but every bit helps(OK just giving this a bump really)

[DEATH_INC.]

Not sure anyone wants this responsibility..... I spent $45 on photocopying stuff.... if you wanna contribute a bit towards that I won't object
I know someone ( ixion ? ) hired the megaphone we used on the ride, and Sanx is at least investing a shiteload of time into the website. I'm also sure Gremlin and Zapf have spent a bit of cash on it too.
So far there haven't been too many expenses, but I'm sure there will be a few more in the months/years to come....
Mr Hitcher, do you doubt our ability to see this through?

[Colapop]

The "Cheesecutter" campaign is exactly that - a campaign. It will not be won in a day or a week. Yes, funds will be needed.

BRONZ supports the campaign and has been working very hard for a number of years for bikers rights. They do a job that gets forgotten quite often. It is also an organisation that has the mechanisms to accept donations and the mechanisms to see that the funds are distributed correctly. I have no doubt that BRONZ will fund, or at least financially support in some way, the cheesecutter website and/or other campaign initiatives.

[RiderInBlack]

Not sure anyone wants this responsibility..... I spent $45 on photocopying stuff.... if you wanna contribute a bit towards that I won't object
I know someone ( ixion ? ) hired the megaphone we used on the ride, and Sanx is at least investing a shiteload of time into the website. I'm also sure Gremlin and Zapf have spent a bit of cash on it too.
So far there haven't been too many expenses, but I'm sure there will be a few more in the months/years to come....
Mr Hitcher, do you doubt our ability to see this through?

PM me. Won't be much (would be gold coin if any of ya were handy) but hey can't see why ya any of ya should be out of pocket on our behalf.
Edit: as for Bronz, if they want ta set-up a donation fund for the Cheesercutter Campaign and cost relating to that campaign (this includes any cost Bronz have directly relating to the above Campaign), then I would only be too happy to chip in

[Hitcher]

Mr Hitcher, do you doubt our ability to see this through?

If it's a only a matter of reimbursing those who may have had significant financial exposure to the campaign so far, then it's up to such folk to declare their interests and expectations and for others to remit funds to them. No great dramas there. Others of us are happy to swallow our costs.

But the next stage of this campaign -- beyond a petition and protest rides -- is where the significant funding contributions are required, and where exchange of petty cash really won't cut it. That's why I believe a professional organisation is needed, well more than that, I believe it should be mandatory for accountability reasons.

[DEATH_INC.]

PM me. Won't be much (would be gold coin if any of ya were handy) but hey can't see why ya any of ya should be out of pocket on our behalf.
Edit: as for Bronz, if they want ta set-up a donation fund for the Cheesercutter Campaign and cost relating to that campaign (this includes any cost Bronz have directly relating to the above Campaign), then I would only be too happy to chip in

Tell ya what, you can buy me a beer next time I'm up that way

[Holy Roller]

Being the wanna be boy scout that I am and one who likes to collect badges and such...
How about designing a sew on patch like our KB one and selling them to help defray costs.
Could be some kind of comp here
possible or what?

[RiderInBlack]

Tell ya what, you can buy me a beer next time I'm up that way

Sweet As. I better make it a Jug.
A "I Support The Cheesecutter Campaign" Patch for my "Bull-shit" Vest or "Bumper" sticker (one for all of my vehicles) would suit me The KB ones on "Roxanne" are getting "tired".

[DEATH_INC.]

We talked of stickers, it may be a good idea, small one for bikes and a biggie for yer cage.
I'm thinking something simple along the lines of the sign on the back of the ute on the jafa protest ride.
Ok then, we need some designs, and of course someone friendly to print 'em.