Laser jammers

[zx10ruser]

There's only two on the market that have been independently tested and stand up as absolutely reliable, the best being the Blinder. I'm with Archer though, the risk from a laser is very low so I haven't bothered to buy one (ahem, not that my wife would let me anyway) DO NOT BUY THE ROCKY MOUNTAIN JAMMER, IT DOESN'T WORK.

If your talking about the rocky mountain laser detectors off trademe those work awesome.... if the only thing you want to pick up is petrol stations! biggest piece of crap ive ever bought

[Mikkel]

Well, a laser detector isn't much use. When you can pick it up they've already taken their measurement...

Unlike radar the lasers aren't scattered all around the place.

[Max Preload]

mmm would of thought there would be high usage in Auckland, certainly on the motorway(s)

Certainly is.

Southbound on the southern motorway:
Greenlane interchange
Mt Wellington
Manurewa
Takainini

Northbound:
Manukau
Papatoetoe
Highbrook
Brow of the hill between Otahuhu & Mt Wellington
Mt Wellington
Between Mt Wellington & Penrose where the cell tower is
Market Road

And that's just in the last few months. I've even seen the bikes parked up with the cop using the laser.

[avgas]

Well, a laser detector isn't much use. When you can pick it up they've already taken their measurement...

Not so, laser quite happily defracts and reflects - but the compounds that they coat vehicles with to do so is all hush hush

[Tank]

Have you guys ever just thought of not speeding?



































just kidding

[Mikkel]

Not so, laser quite happily defracts and reflects - but the compounds that they coat vehicles with to do so is all hush hush

No doubt about that it both defract (which is not really that important in this situation), refracts (and I don't think this matter too much either) and reflects(i.e. bounces around - which is what matters). However, the lidar used by police is focused to a smallish point whereas the radar has a much larger profile.
If we talk radars the cone from a stationary speed camera van is much narrower than that from a cop car which is why you need a good (sensitive) radar detector to save you from the vans, whereas the cop car ones you can pick up easily if they are turned on.

As for the whole "magic paint" thingy. It's true that you can coat surfaces so that they absorb more of the incoming radiation and thus have a smaller reflection. I doubt that you'll find any coating that will reduce your profile enough for both radar (radio waves - wave length 10-100 mm) and laser (IR - 905 nm wavelength according to Sparkz) simply because the wavelength gap is huge.

[Swoop]

Well, a laser detector isn't much use.

Hence the reason for the title of this thread... (or at least, the wonderful product that Blinder makes).

[SpeedyBoy]

If you can afford a Laser Blinder go for it! Just be aware that it's a manual install, not just something you plug in a off you go, you have to mount the sensor and transmitter separately and by your headlight(s) - this is not to say that it is difficult, just takes time.

I myself use LaserVeil and have noticed it to be rather effective - but you do have to be paying attention. I also run a Valentine1 radar/laser detector. This combination has paid for itself a number of times over.

My 2c from over 3 years of experience.

[Swoop]

If you can afford a Laser Blinder go for it! Just be aware that it's a manual install,

Calvotech, on the North Shore, will install it on a bike for around $100-$150.
They also supply them and Techmount products.

[vifferman]

As for the whole "magic paint" thingy. It's true that you can coat surfaces so that they absorb more of the incoming radiation and thus have a smaller reflection. I doubt that you'll find any coating that will reduce your profile enough for both radar (radio waves - wave length 10-100 mm) and laser (IR - 905 nm wavelength according to Sparkz) simply because the wavelength gap is huge.

They tested this on "Mythbusters" and found that the 'magic paint' actually improved the reflected signal, reducing the device's response time!

[hospitalfood]

totally confused now..............
and Tank, that was funny.

[Mikkel]

They tested this on "Mythbusters" and found that the 'magic paint' actually improved the reflected signal, reducing the device's response time!

Not many people realise this... but it's the same holding company that owns the company manufacturing the police radars AND the company that makes the paint.

Oh, and the holding company is run by the gub'mint and so is the police... Coincidence? I think not!

Also, it has actually been statistically proven that it's safer to speed - very very few people get killed in crashes at 300 km/h. As such 300 km/h must be considered a safe speed!

The system is trying to kill us while bleeding us dry on the speeding tickets we get while trying to stay alive and the merchandise to try and save us that expense. True story!

[avgas]

actually what they do is design (i.e. shape) to dissolve the big wavelength (interhamonics) signals and coat to defract or reflect (depending on angles) the lazer signals so yes it does do both. But no i am not talking about that crap paint that you get. I'm more talking about military based designs that avoid detection.
Rumor has it the new lambo had an engineer specifically to see if he could integrate some of these concepts into the vehicle. I suspect that is all bullshit though.

As for the speed saves lives, that is bullshit. It is exactly like saying high voltage/current has less deaths, less people die of chewing lead and less people die of 10,000 degree temperatures.
How many people do 300kph? Could every person you know do 300kph fine? right now i would put money down that 50% of the population struggle to do 100kph faultlessly.

[Mikkel]

actually what they do is design (i.e. shape) to dissolve the big wavelength (interhamonics) signals and coat to defract or reflect (depending on angles) the lazer signals so yes it does do both. But no i am not talking about that crap paint that you get. I'm more talking about military based designs that avoid detection.
Rumor has it the new lambo had an engineer specifically to see if he could integrate some of these concepts into the vehicle. I suspect that is all bullshit though.

Not to be an arse, but diffraction has NO relavance in the matter of speed measuring using neither LIDAR nor RADAR. If you look at a surface the only relevance is the reflection and absorption characteristics - and reflection characteristics includes scattering (think mirror vs. a rough metal surface).

As for the speed saves lives, that is bullshit. It is exactly like saying high voltage/current has less deaths, less people die of chewing lead and less people die of 10,000 degree temperatures.
How many people do 300kph? Could every person you know do 300kph fine? right now i would put money down that 50% of the population struggle to do 100kph faultlessly.

Sorry to ruin your party mate... But if you don't get the irony of the entire post in which I stated that "fact" you're beyond help... meh!

[Pancakes]

Laser can be generated with very little power. Just generate a nonsense signal the whole time with a detector just to tell you to button off before you get too close? The RADAR fooling paint isn't something you just buy and definatly not for $40! It was layers and hollow sphere's inside that let the signal in then let it go at an angle that won't be picked up from the source direction.