f*** me -- how the f*** did I manage this?

**DMNTD:Me** · 11th November 2007, 18:14

Originally Posted by homer

I dont look after a bike I pamper it

I'm the same...I'm an "over-waxer"

Originally Posted by homer

U know what i mean

( that's for the bike ) just to be clear.k

**homer** · 11th November 2007, 18:16

Originally Posted by DMNTD

I'm the same...I'm an "over-waxer"

Hell yeah its just damn good A

**Daffyd** · 11th November 2007, 18:35

Originally Posted by jrandom

You know you're supposed to replace helmets after impacts, eh.

You can claim it on home contents insurance.

My theory on that is that it is a marketing exercise by the helmet manufacturers. There was an interesting article in a bike mag (I can't remember which one) a while ago suggesting the same thing.
After all, if it can't survive a stationary fall when empty, how can it protect a 15 pound head at 100+ km/h?

**jrandom** · 11th November 2007, 18:39

Originally Posted by Daffyd

My theory on that is that it is a marketing exercise by the helmet manufacturers. There was an interesting article in a bike mag (I can't remember which one) a while ago suggesting the same thing.

The foam inside helmet shells does not re-expand after being compressed.

Without the uncompressed foam, the helmet will just transmit impacts straight through to your head.

I don't think it's just a marketing exercise.

Maybe it would be possible to design a helmet that absorbed multiple impacts as well as current designs absorb one impact. I dunno. But if someone makes a helmet and sells it to me saying "this is only good for one crash, wear it again after a knock and all bets are off" I'm going to believe them. It's my fucking head.

**Daffyd** · 11th November 2007, 18:48

Originally Posted by jrandom

The foam inside helmet shells does not re-expand after being compressed.

Without the uncompressed foam, the helmet will just transmit impacts straight through to your head.

I don't think it's just a marketing exercise.

Maybe it would be possible to design a helmet that absorbed multiple impacts as well as current designs absorb one impact. I dunno. But if someone makes a helmet and sells it to me saying "this is only good for one crash, wear it again after a knock and all bets are off" I'm going to believe them. It's my fucking head.

I don't disagree, the point I'm trying to make is that in an empty helmet there is nothing to compress the foam. The article in question referred to a helmet rolling off the seat and down a grassy hill. I would have no hesitation in replacing my helmet if I fell off and banged it heavily on the deck.
(I didn't think it would be long before I was taken to task.)

**jrandom** · 11th November 2007, 18:53

Originally Posted by Daffyd

The article in question referred to a helmet rolling off the seat and down a grassy hill. I would have no hesitation in replacing my helmet if I fell off and banged it heavily on the deck.

Well, of course. If the helmet doesn't actually take a high-G whack, it'll be unlikely that its impact-absorbing qualities are reduced.

**Trudes** · 11th November 2007, 18:58

I think it must be something about over loved/cleaned/pampered bikes, they seem to have this tendency to want to throw themselves on the floor and have a tanty, best thing you can do is stop cleaning and pampering it and it will stop it!!

**Daffyd** · 11th November 2007, 18:59

Originally Posted by jrandom

Well, of course. If the helmet doesn't actually take a high-G whack, it'll be unlikely that its impact-absorbing qualities are reduced.

Yet, helmet manufacturers will still tell you you should replace even if it falls off a seat.

**homer** · 11th November 2007, 19:04

Originally Posted by Daffyd

My theory on that is that it is a marketing exercise by the helmet manufacturers. There was an interesting article in a bike mag (I can't remember which one) a while ago suggesting the same thing.
After all, if it can't survive a stationary fall when empty, how can it protect a 15 pound head at 100+ km/h?

and i am guessing someone else is getting payed for that .
And yes im wishing i was !

Oh and is a head 15 lb
ive never weighed mine

how would one achieve this .
might give it a go ,It would be interesting to know

**jrandom** · 11th November 2007, 19:06

Originally Posted by Daffyd

Yet, helmet manufacturers will still tell you you should replace even if it falls off a seat.

Well, naturally there is bound to be an element of CYA motivation in those warnings.

I don't think they're commercially aimed at getting more helmet sales, though; just a safety net against litigation from dumb Americans with head injuries.

**Swoop** · 11th November 2007, 19:08

Originally Posted by Mrs Kendog

I think it must be something about over loved/cleaned/pampered bikes, they seem to have this tendency to want to throw themselves on the floor and have a tanty, best thing you can do is stop cleaning and pampering it and it will stop it!!

Biiig mistake!
It then thinks that it is being ignored so will find retribution by breaking down, for no apparent reason, in the middle of nowhere!

**homer** · 11th November 2007, 19:10

Originally Posted by Swoop

Biiig mistake!
It then thinks that it is being ignored so will find retribution by breaking down, for no apparent reason, in the middle of nowhere!

Ill keep that in mind but towards the back of it........

**Mom** · 11th November 2007, 19:21

Originally Posted by homer

Thanks man .
I know it happens to us all some time
but it just shits me
I dont look after a bike I pamper it
U know what i mean

( thats for the bike ) just to be clear.k

Welcome to the real world of bikers mate! The cringe of shame you feel, coupled with the laughter of your mates is what builds the biker character!

Of course I have never done anything remotely as funny as that!

**Headbanger** · 11th November 2007, 19:22

Must be time I pulled a "dropped my bike standing still" story out of my hat.

First Harley I bought, I was 18, Rode it like a motocross bike, destroyed the clutch within a couple of weeks, took her home, put it up on a crate, pulled the side cover off, had to compress the clutch plates and hold them compressed while I undone the bolt that held them and the basket together. (Harley have a special tool for this) Using A hammer, vice grips and a spanner I couldn't do it, after an hour of frustration and skinned knuckles......sitting on my arse,facing the bike, I boot the clutch....

Bike flips straight off the crate, Then slides upside down off the drive and down a bank into a garden.

Three of us couldn't move it, ended up with a chain around the wheel and dragging it out with a car.

LMFAO.

Damage to paint, handle bars, levers, Indicators, seat, Wheel plus the refurbished clutch, Just short of $3000

**Mom** · 11th November 2007, 19:24

Originally Posted by Daffyd

My theory on that is that it is a marketing exercise by the helmet manufacturers.

They are a one crash item mate!

Ask DMNTD he will explain my feelings on this.......eh lovely? God I am such a pain sometimes........

Originally Posted by jrandom

The foam inside helmet shells does not re-expand after being compressed.

Without the uncompressed foam, the helmet will just transmit impacts straight through to your head.

I don't think it's just a marketing exercise.

See! It is not just me, though you say it better than I do!