Waving - the neverending saga (multiple threads merged into one)

[SARGE]

Top Ten Reasons Why Harley Riders Don't Wave Back
They're afraid it will invalidate their factory warranty.
Leather and studs make it too hard to raise their arm.
They refuse to wave to anyone whose bike is already paid for.
They won't let go of handlebars because they might vibrate off.
The rushing wind could blow the scabs off their new tattoos.
They're angry over the second mortgage needed to pay for the new Harley.
They just discovered the fine print in their owner's manual revealing that The Motor Company is partially owned by rice-burner manufacturers.
They can't tell if other riders are actually waving or just reaching up to cover their ears, like everyone else.
If they wave back, they risk being impaled on their spiked helmet.
They're upset that after spending $30,000, they still don't own a bike that's as comfortable as a Goldwing.
To be totally fair, let it be noted that sometimes Goldwing riders don't wave back, either. Again, to facilitate a better understanding....

Top Ten Reasons Why Goldwing Riders Don't Wave Back
They aren't sure whether the other rider is waving or making an obscene gesture.
They risk getting frostbite if they take their hand off the heated grip.
They have arthritis and it is difficult to raise their arm.
The reflection from the etched windshield was momentarily blinding.
The on-board espresso machine had just finished.
They were asleep when other rider waved.
They were involved in a three-way conference call with their stock broker and accessories dealer.
They were distracted by an oddly shaped blip on their radar screen.
They were simultaneously adjusting the air suspension, seat height, programmable CD player, seat temperature and satellite navigation system.
They couldn't find the "auto wave-back" button on their

[Bonez]

but would you wave to a gang of Hogs well maybe?

A group of hogs together is correctly referred to as a herd of hogs. [Banjos playing in the background............]

[Hitcher]

Heard of chickens?

[SARGE]

Heard of chickens?

sure ive heard of Chickens.. ***rimshot***

someone hadda say it..

[Kickaha]

knocked off from http://teammaddogracing.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=828

The bikes passenger seat swept up just enough that I could see over
my father's shoulders. That seat was my throne. My dad and I travelled many
backroads, searching for the ones we had never found before. Travelling
these roads just to see where they went. Never in a rush. Just be home for
supper. I remember wandering down a backroad with my father, sitting on my
throne watching the trees whiz by, feeling the rumble of our bike beneath
us like a contented giant cat. A motorcycle came over a hill toward us and
as it went by, my father threw up his gloved clutch hand and gave a little
wave. The other biker waved back with the same friendly swing of his left
wrist.

I tapped my father on his shoulder, which was our signal that I
wanted to say something. He cocked his helmeted ear back slightly while
keeping his eyes ahead.
I yelled, "Do we know him?"
What?" he shouted.
"You waved to him. Who was it?"
"I don't know. Just another guy on a bike. So I waved."
"How come?"
"You just do. It's important."

Later, when we had stopped for chocolate ice cream, I asked why it
was important to wave to other bikers. My father tried to explain how the
wave demonstrated comradeship and a mutual understanding of what it was to
enjoy riding a motorcycle. He looked for the words to describe how almost
all bikers struggled with the same things like cold, rain, heat, car
drivers who did not see them, but how riding remained an almost pure
pleasure. I was young then and I am not sure that I really understood what
he was trying to get across. But, It was a beginning.

Afterward, I always waved along with my father when we passed other
bikers. I remember one cold October morning when the clouds were heavy and
dark, giving us another clue that winter was knifing in from just over the
horizon. My father and I were warm inside our car as we headed to a
friend's home. Rounding a comer, we saw a motorcycle parked on the
shoulder of the road. Past the bike, we saw the rider walking through the
ditch, scouring the long grasses crowned with a touch of frost. We pulled
over and backed up to where the bike stood.
I asked Dad, "Who's that?"
"Don't know," he replied. "But he see to have lost something. Maybe
we can give him a hand."

We left the car and wandered through the tall grass of the ditch to
the biker. He said that he had been pulling on his gloves as he rode and he
had lost one. The three of us spent some time combing the ditch, but all we
found were two empty cans and a plastic water bottle. My father turned and
headed back to our car and I followed him. He opened the trunk and threw
the cans and the water bottle into a small cardboard box that we kept for
garbage. He rummaged through various tools, oil containers and windshield
washer fluid until he found an old crumpled pair of brown leather gloves.
Dad straightened them out and handed them to me to hold. He continued
looking until he located an old catalogue. I understood why my dad had
grabbed the gloves. I had no idea what he was going to do with the
catalogue. We headed back to the biker who was still walking the ditch.

My dad said, "Here's some gloves for you. And I brought you a catalogue as
well."
"Thanks," he replied. "I really appreciate it." He reached into his hip
pocket and withdrew a worn black wallet.
"Let me give you some money for the gloves," he said as he slid some bills
out.
"No thanks," my dad replied as I handed the rider the gloves. "They're old
and not worth anything anyway."
The biker smiled. "Thanks a lot."

He pulled on the old gloves and then he unzipped his jacket. I
watched as my father handed him the catalogue and the biker slipped it
inside his coat. He jostled his jacket around to get the catalogue sitting
high and centered under his coat and zipped it up. I remember nodding my
head at the time, finally making sense of why my dad had given him the
catalogue. It would keep him bit warmer. After wishing the biker well, my
father and I left him warming up his bike.

Two weeks later, the biker came to our home and returned my father's
gloves. He had found our address on the catalogue. Neither my father nor
the biker seemed to think that my father stopping at the side of the road
for a stranger and giving him a pair of gloves, and that stranger making
sure that the gloves were returned, were events at all out of the ordinary
for people who rode motorcycles. For me, it was another subtle lesson.

It was spring the next year when I was sitting high on my throne,
watching the farm fields slip by when I saw two bikes coming towards us. As
they rumbled past, both my father and I waved, but the other bikers kept
their sunglasses locked straight ahead and did not acknowledge us. I
remember thinking that they must have seen us because our waves were too
obvious to miss. Why hadn't they waved back? I thought all bikers waved to
one another.

I patted my father on his shoulder and yelled, "How come they didn't wave
to us?"
"Don't know. Sometimes they don't."

I remember feeling very puzzled. Why wouldn't someone wave back?
Later that summer, I turned 12 and learned how to ride a bike with a
clutch. I spent many afternoons on a country laneway beside our home,
kicking and kicking to start my father's T55 BSA. When it would finally
sputter to a start, my concentration would grow to a sharp focus as I tried
to let out the clutch slowly while marrying it with just enough throttle to
bring me to a smooth takeoff. More often, I lurched and stumbled forward
while trying to keep the front wheel straight and
remember to pick my feet up. A few feet farther down the lane, I would sigh
and begin kicking again.

A couple of years later, my older brother began road racing, and I
became a racetrack rat. We spent many weekends wandering to several tracks
in Ontario-Harewood, Mosport and eventually Shannonville. These were the
early years of two-stroke domination, of Kawasaki green and 750 two-stroke
triples, of Yvon Duhamel's cat-and-mouse games and the
artistry of Steve Baker.

Eventually, I started to pursue interests other than the race track.
I got my motorcycle licence and began wandering the backroads on my own. I
found myself stopping along sideroads if I saw a rider sitting alone, just
checking to see if I could be of help. And I continued to wave to each
biker I saw. But I remained confused as to why some riders never waved
back. It left me with almost a feeling of rejection, as if I were reaching
to shake someone's hand but they kept their arm hanging by their side. I
began to canvass my friends about waving. I talked with people I
met at bike events, asking what they thought. Most of the riders told me
they waved to other motorcyclists and often initiated the friendly air
handshake as they passed one another.

I did meet some riders, though, who told me that they did not wave to
other riders because they felt that they were different from other bikers.
They felt that they were "a breed apart." One guy told me in colorful
language that he did not "wave to no wusses. He went on to say that his
kind of bikers were tough, independent, and they did not require or want
the help of anyone, whether they rode a bike or not.

I suspected that there were some people who bought a bike because
they wanted to purchase an image of being tougher, more independent, a
not-putting-up-with-anyone's-crap kind of person, but I did not think that
this was typical of most riders.

People buy bikes for different reasons. Some will be quick to tell
you what make it is, how much they paid for it, or how fast it will go.
Brand loyalty is going to be strong for some people whether they have a
Harley, Ford, Sony, Nike or whatever. Some people want to buy an image and
try to purchase another person's perception of them. But it can't be done.
They hope that it can, but it can't. Still, there is a group of people who
ride bikes who truly are a "breed apart." They appreciate both the
engineering and the artistry in the machines they ride. Their bikes become
part of who they are and how they define themselves to themselves alone.

[Kickaha]

They don't care what other people think. They don't care if anyone
knows how much they paid for their bike or how fast it will go. The bike
means something to them that nothing else does. They ride for themselves
and not for anyone else. They don't care whether anyone knows they have a
bike. They may not be able to find words to describe what it means to
ride, but they still know. They might not be able to explain what it means
to feel the smooth acceleration and the strength beneath them. But they
understand.

These are the riders who park their bikes, begin to walk away and
then stop. They turn and took back. They see something when they look at
their bikes that you might not. Something more complex, something that is
almost secret, sensed rather than known. They see their passion. They see a
part of themselves.

These are the riders who understand why they wave to other
motorcyclists. They savor the wave. It symbolizes the connection between
riders, and if they saw you and your bike on the side of the road, they
would stop to help and might not ask your name. They understand what you
are up against every time you take your bike on the road-the drivers that
do not see you, the ones that cut you off or tailgate you, the potholes
that hide in wait. The rain. The cold. I have been shivering and sweating
on a bike for more than 40 years. Most of the riders that pass give me a
supportive wave. I love it when I see a younger rider on a "crotch rocket"
scream past me and wave. New riders carrying on traditions.

And I will continue in my attempts to get every biker just a little
closer to one another with a simple wave of my gloved clutch hand. And if
they do not wave back when I extend my hand into the breeze as I pass them,
I will smile a little more. They may be a little mistaken about just who is
a "breed apart."

[Virago]

...........And I will continue in my attempts to get every biker just a little
closer to one another with a simple wave of my gloved clutch hand. And if
they do not wave back when I extend my hand into the breeze as I pass them,
I will smile a little more. They may be a little mistaken about just who is
a "breed apart."

Food for thought - thanks for the post!

[feistyredhead]

They don't care what other people think. They don't care if anyone
knows how much they paid for their bike or how fast it will go. The bike
means something to them that nothing else does. They ride for themselves
and not for anyone else. They don't care whether anyone knows they have a
bike. They may not be able to find words to describe what it means to
ride, but they still know. They might not be able to explain what it means
to feel the smooth acceleration and the strength beneath them. But they
understand.

These are the riders who park their bikes, begin to walk away and
then stop. They turn and took back. They see something when they look at
their bikes that you might not. Something more complex, something that is
almost secret, sensed rather than known. They see their passion. They see a
part of themselves.

These are the riders who understand why they wave to other
motorcyclists. They savor the wave. It symbolizes the connection between
riders, and if they saw you and your bike on the side of the road, they
would stop to help and might not ask your name. They understand what you
are up against every time you take your bike on the road-the drivers that
do not see you, the ones that cut you off or tailgate you, the potholes
that hide in wait. The rain. The cold. I have been shivering and sweating
on a bike for more than 40 years. Most of the riders that pass give me a
supportive wave. I love it when I see a younger rider on a "crotch rocket"
scream past me and wave. New riders carrying on traditions.

And I will continue in my attempts to get every biker just a little
closer to one another with a simple wave of my gloved clutch hand. And if
they do not wave back when I extend my hand into the breeze as I pass them,
I will smile a little more. They may be a little mistaken about just who is
a "breed apart."

awesome what a great story thanks for taking the time to post it.

[Aitch]

Dunno if it's weather induced but some days I get heaps of response and other days I get nadda...???

It's kinda like lottery now...... I'll spot a bike and start wondering if there'll be a response and do a quick 'probability' calculation then check the weather.....then identify there make/style of bike....then......Ooops.....missed that one!

But I do try and wave/nod at anything on 2 legs...Oops....WHEELS...

WAVE BACK YER HEAR!!!!!

But on my GS1200 I usually get a wave back. The other day I was riding a VTR250 (and not a bad ride for a little bike might I add) and of the 3 or 4 bikers I waved at, not one waved back......does size matter???????

[Bonez]

But on my GS1200 I usually get a wave back. The other day I was riding a VTR250 (and not a bad ride for a little bike might I add) and of the 3 or 4 bikers I waved at, not one waved back......does size matter???????

Certainly not to me. Hell, even been waving to moped riders on the scoot to and from work lately but please don't tell anyone ah

[Ixion]

"You just do. It's important."

Got it in one. You just do. Tis the Golden Rule and the Unwritten Gospel.

[tracyprier]

I've always felt that bikers who don't wave just don't get biking... and they are the poorer for it.

[tracyprier]

Oh... and I ride a Beemer

[old farts]

I used to stop if there was a big group of bikers stopped somewhere so my kids could have a look at the bikes, and they always waved when they went past, now 15years later im one of those bikers !!!

[Motu]

I've always felt that bikers who don't wave just don't get biking... and they are the poorer for it.

I don't get it...I really don't - why this fashionation with waving?