Dangerous driving highway patrol.

[Gixxer 4 ever]

Tha Majority of Cops are good guys and even some of the Highway Patrol guys.Some of the shit they dish out is driven buy the LTSA and top cops who are more interested in statistics and making themselves look good than effective policing , But it really pisses me off that there are a few arrogant retards that have got in to the force who think that blue and red lights are are licence to put everyone else at risk just to catch a guy who probably drifted up to 112 down a hill. aaahhgggg

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[Stinger]

Hmmmm.... that's a thought. Wonder how the cop who ticketed me had to drive to catch up, given that: (a) he was parked in a lay-by when I went by, (b) I don't think I went below the speed limit between when he pinged me and when he pulled me up, and (c) there would've been a lot of traffic between us, as it was a very busy road.
I can honestly say that I was riding very carefully and safely, and speeding when overtaking (in a passing lane) was the only law-breaking I did.
Wonder who caused more of a potential hazard to other road users? No-one had to get out of my way....
I'm not trying to justify breaking the law, and I didn't actually see the police car until he was behind me with the siren on, so I can't comment on his driving, but I'd imagine there are times when in order to serve a ticket, police actually are actually more of a danger than the "killer" speeds of miscreants like myself....

When the 'bottom line' of traffic laws is safety, this makes you think, dunnit?

The only thing about that, is that I think the idea of catching you isn't to stop you from speeding this time... but rather to discourage you from doing it in the future (Hence the demerits, and cash penalties).

[vifferman]

The only thing about that, is that I think the idea of catching you isn't to stop you from speeding this time... but rather to discourage you from doing it in the future (Hence the demerits, and cash penalties).

You think?
I thought somehow the awards were to enhance my status amongst the Biker Community?

Rock on! I'm one Big, Bad, PreparedToKill MoFo!!

[marty]

whatever lou. SOME of us grow up, and use experience, sly, cunning, radios, patience etc, instead of blindly screaming down SH1. sounds like you are still pining for the RUSH?????????

[marty]

Just remember guys that the police when in pursuit can legally do 30kmh over the speed limit with flashing lights on, and sirens where appropriate.....

The only time they can break that limit is when there is lives in danger (for general duties) OR when the vehicle being pursued is endangering lives (ie they have to be forced off the road....) and even then they have to be in contact with comms at all times giving the speed of their vehicle, estimated speed of the other vehicle, traffic conditions, road conditions, whether the vehicle being chased is erratic or not etc.... Then the pursuit can be called off or not by comms (have been in a few chases, ofcourse not being the chased and the adrenalin really does get flowing....)

Once again it is the odd loose cannon/idiot that is giving them a bad name.....

that's nearly right - the 30km/h limit is a guideline only. there is no limit set in legislation, and even when responding, police are still bound by the careless/dangerous/excessive speed regulations. there are innumerable instances of cops being charged for dangerous/excessive speed, for driving crazy on the way to a job. comms can (and does) call off the pursuit, but only if the car is in a pursuit - they won't say for someone to call off driving fast to a job. the responsibility is still with the cop.

[scumdog]

[QUOTE=Lou Girardin]

After a few pursuits the adrenaline doesn't flow like it did for your first one. QUOTE]

Yeah right! The buzz is just as strong years later.

How many years back was your last 'buzz' and how old were you Lou?

Not for this boy, my thoughts are "I'll give it a go but if he gets away/chase called off then so what, I still get paid, ho-hum, it's not like I have anything to lose"

BTW the next pursuit I have to give up on or lose the car I'm after will be the first, - and I'm a pretty cautious (but crafty) driver, at 50+yrs you get that way!

[Two Smoker]

that's nearly right - the 30km/h limit is a guideline only. there is no limit set in legislation, and even when responding, police are still bound by the careless/dangerous/excessive speed regulations. there are innumerable instances of cops being charged for dangerous/excessive speed, for driving crazy on the way to a job. comms can (and does) call off the pursuit, but only if the car is in a pursuit - they won't say for someone to call off driving fast to a job. the responsibility is still with the cop.

Cheers for clearing that up Marty

[Kickaha]

Also, every driver is responsible for their own behaviour, a cop driving like a maniac is no different to any other maniac, except he will draw more attention to himself.

Ture and in the eyes of the public they have to be seen to be setting the example that others should follow.

Makes me wonder if it was just Joe Public that had been doing this if there would have been such a follow up and complaint laid?

[jimbo600]

Ture and in the eyes of the public they have to be seen to be setting the example that others should follow.

Makes me wonder if it was just Joe Public that had been doing this if there would have been such a follow up and complaint laid?

If I saw any wanker driving on the wrong side of the road I would have called it in. I've had too many calls on the bike not to. Just around the corner from Paekak hill is the "killer highway", how many front on smashes have happened there resulting in fatals.

[Skyryder]

I used to write in 'dangerouse' but stopped after the police got the notices mixed up. I got the letter that the dangerouse driver should have got with his name on and he got mine with "my' name on.

I caused a ruckus up in Wellington about this and was asured that it would not happen again. Sorry guys the damage was done and the only person who can assure that this was not going to happen again was me.

Never written again. Pot some retard and they get to know who you are and all sorts of problems can arrive in your life.

I use my cell phone now and just call in a drunk driver. Works.

Skyryder

[spudchucka]

Ture and in the eyes of the public they have to be seen to be setting the example that others should follow.

Makes me wonder if it was just Joe Public that had been doing this if there would have been such a follow up and complaint laid?

Yes, they should set an example for other motorists. Fast driving is required from time to time but if you are driving so fast that you can't keep within your own lane then you are stepping over the line of whats reasonable.

Sometimes frustration creeps in when you are trying to balance urgent response with safe driving, things like drivers that won't pull over for lights and sirens can lead to poor decisions being made. Most cops will have a scary moment in a patrol car at some stage in their careers. Hopefully its never anything worse than a near miss and they learn very quickly that its not worth it when things turn pear shaped.

By the way I had a pursuit a few nights ago, it was about 0130 hours, country road, nil traffic, fine weather, straight roads, it lasted about 5 minutes, got to speeds of 170 and comms ordered it be abandoned.

[Da Bird]

that's nearly right - the 30km/h limit is a guideline only. there is no limit set in legislation, and even when responding, police are still bound by the careless/dangerous/excessive speed regulations. there are innumerable instances of cops being charged for dangerous/excessive speed, for driving crazy on the way to a job. comms can (and does) call off the pursuit, but only if the car is in a pursuit - they won't say for someone to call off driving fast to a job. the responsibility is still with the cop.

Yes, the 30km/hr over the limit is a guideline and yes, it is not set in legislation. Just wanted to clarify that the 30km/hr over the speed limit only applies to urgent duty driving, i.e going to a Priority 1 job. It does not apply to pursuits where the speed is obviously determined to a large extent by the fleeing vehicle. However, as Marty has pointed out, the cops are subject to the Careless / Dangerous charges if they crash.

[Da Bird]

By the way I had a pursuit a few nights ago, it was about 0130 hours, country road, nil traffic, fine weather, straight roads, it lasted about 5 minutes, got to speeds of 170 and comms ordered it be abandoned.

Yip, they know best...

[Da Bird]

yeep! they need it eh, the bikes have that bike training, to ride the new beemers (yucky) there was a 3 day course of riding over the rimutakas/some random areas down there i think.


Dunno how in-depth it was or anything but at least its a bit of a start possibly.

Off to do my 2 day cross-over course in a few weeks coz I don't know how to ride a BMW, especially with the indicators on each handlebar ! lol
Should be a fun couple of days hopefully....

[Quasievil]

Yes, they should set an example for other motorists. Fast driving is required from time to time but if you are driving so fast that you can't keep within your own lane then you are stepping over the line of whats reasonable.

Sometimes frustration creeps in when you are trying to balance urgent response with safe driving, things like drivers that won't pull over for lights and sirens can lead to poor decisions being made. Most cops will have a scary moment in a patrol car at some stage in their careers. Hopefully its never anything worse than a near miss and they learn very quickly that its not worth it when things turn pear shaped.

By the way I had a pursuit a few nights ago, it was about 0130 hours, country road, nil traffic, fine weather, straight roads, it lasted about 5 minutes, got to speeds of 170 and comms ordered it be abandoned.

Like Comms saying abandon the chase means an absolute, in my experience it meant turn the lights of and keep going