Exhaust Rules, FYI

[Coldkiwi]

Just to keep you all up to date on whats happening with the exhaust laws debarcle aka. Draft Land Transport (vehicle equipment) Rule

1. Received a letter saying 'thank you for you submission' from Margie Sulliva, technical editor of the Rules Team at LTSA (I can't believe our taxes pay for positions like that).
   
   
2. Gave her a call to enquire where the submissions etc were at and she told me the following:
   
   
3. They received 3000 submissions on the Vehicle Equipment rule, the vast majority were predictably about the exhaust laws. This is a quite overwhelming response.
   
   
4. They are due to report back to the Transport Minister in December but given the volume they may need more time to process them and get advice/opinions about the content of the submissions. Technical advice is generally not provided by the police calibration unit (they only advise the cops) but is done through LTSA engineers and policy planners etc. who then farm out the work after that if they need to.
   
   
5. The police were the driving force behind the changes to the equipment rule regarding exhaust noise. {I note that given that they were advised by a Professor specialising in early childhood hearing (!?), it’s no wonder this is all such a mess.}
   
   
6. Because it is still in the drafting phase, the current ‘road rules’ are still covered in the traffic gazette and statutory acts etc. These changes are not law at all and should not really be being enforced (although don’t go quoting her or me on this because we’re not lawyers). Draft rules really are just that and although the Police may be trying to enforce them, the courts are quite willing and able to take a different stance… as appears to be the case with all the green stickered vehicle owners going to court and the cases are being thrown out because of the horrendous loopholes.

The final rule (she hinted that there were suggestions in the submissions that the police should be given power to order a vehicle to go to a special testing station but not to be fined on the spot) is not likely to be made law until mid next year… but this of course depends on what the final state of it is.

[bluninja]

Couldn't we add this into the other thread and make it even longer?

Good stuff CK

TTFN

[Slim]

Yeah, I received that letter too, but good on you for following it up with a phone call.

Just to clarify: The police are enforcing the 1976 Traffic Regulations - I've seen their instructions-from-on-high & it's very clear about that.

[SPman]

So that means they have to have a proper meter test???

[Dave]

SP Man did you get an operation your not telling us about?
SORRY-back to the topic!

[duckman]

This weekend I went and got a WOF for my Ducati (which has Arrow carbon fibre pipes) and I passed without a problem. In fact the guy didn't even ask about them. This was at the VT station in Kingsland.

So when does this law take effect ??

Why didn't they give me any grief??

When can I go home ??

Why does my head hurt??

[bikerboy]

It's them damn hooligan pipes on that duc that's giving you
a headache.

[Slim]

Originally posted by duckman
So when does this law take effect ?? It's not a law, it's a rule, and it will come into effect once it's been through the submissions process, been re-written & thence onward to it's normal approval/officialisation process. They're hoping for the end of the year, I believe, but they might be shit out of luck.

Why didn't they give me any grief?? Because they didn't want to touch it with a barge pole, obviously, or they didn't have hangovers!

When can I go home ?? Where is home? And why aren't you there now?

Why does my head hurt?? Which head?

[Coldkiwi]

yup... they didn't give you grief cause there's no new law to get given grief over... keep going there for your warrant.. they're obviously up with the play

[Coldkiwi]

To the guys from skylinesdownunder i met outside CUBA in parnell this morning, welcome to kiwibiker! (I'll assume you've found this thread ok).

There is also another exhaust thread that covers everyones rants and raves (its a doozy so make sure you have plenty of time to read it!!)

 

See, i'm really very polite towards cage.. err.I mean car drivers! I didn't mention 1/4 miles times, laptimes round pukekohe, power to weight ratios etc. etc.