Fired/removed

**justsomeguy** · 17th November 2007, 05:35

Originally Posted by Jim2

Nor is there anything to be gained in pinning your own sense of self worth on a medium that for all intents and purposes has absolutely no value to 90% of the people using it. The motto of the forum dweller seems to be, "It's only the Internet you sook".

Stop slowing down to look at the accident and move on, you skulking rubberneckers.

You and me too seem to spend less and less time here, maybe something clicked. For others this site is a major part of their life, they have done a lot to make it more popular, they don't deserve such treatment.

**justsomeguy** · 17th November 2007, 05:38

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

General comment.

I also hasten to add that I'm not too keen on the us vs the Mod thing that's nicely developed over time. If you don't like it don't sign on. All online communities (all communities for that matter) evolve over time, the old hands want it the way it was, new blood looks at the way it was just as we look and laugh at how our parents danced.

This place is was it is... not what it was, not what it will be.

No biggy... and as I say... if it's not fun to be here, people are always ready to leave.

Sing along anyone?
"On a dark desert highway, cool wind in my hair..."

Is that the long version of "fit in or fuck off"?

**Kickaha** · 17th November 2007, 05:41

Originally Posted by Ixion

Yes. I've seen such PMs . "We hate your guts and we'd be over the moon if you pissed off completely and we're sure you'd be much happier on another site, and anything you DO post we'll infract to high heaven until we do manage to force you out. But , of course , you're still welcome on the site. ". Yeah, right.

The pm I sent certainly didn't resemble anything along those lines.

Originally Posted by Ixion

What sort of derogatory crap is that ? "His" trackdays ? Who in hell thinks that Mr Frosty runs them for his own benefit?

Stop trying to to make those words something that they aren't, if you wish to think they were derogatory crap then carry on as you were, but can you please point out where I said they were run for his own benefit?.

And perhaps you better have a go at those below as well, I can dig out a heap more if you like

Originally Posted by crashe

Frosty stick around and continue your track days and your help with riders out there that need your help.

Originally Posted by Tim_F

Hi Frosty. Thanks indeed for your efforts. I have always assumed that I was uninsured on the track, but when I read out your comments to a representative of my insurer (AMI), they seemed comfortable with the organisation of your track day. .

Originally Posted by Cibby

I am awaiting final confirmation that Frosty Track Days will be covered

Originally Posted by Ixion

I've never seen ANYTHING that the Heaven Born do to contribute to New Zealand biking. They are totally uninterested in helping novice riders. They certainly are not the people who put their hand up to help when someone's broken down or crashed . When bikers are stepping up to the plate to defend biking against the onslaughts of the bureaucrats they are conspicuously absent. So it's a bit rich for those who have done nothing for NZ biking to slag off someone who has over and over done his share and a good sight more.

Just because you don't personally see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but you think what you will.

**justsomeguy** · 17th November 2007, 05:51

Originally Posted by Kickaha

Just because you don't personally see it doesn't mean it doesn't happen, but you think what you will.

Uhmm, could you please point me in the direction of someone who has seen "it". Your mum and best friend don't count as witnesses ok......

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They are KB trackdays for all KB'ers. But Frosty/Doug/Madduck/Death/White Thrash do all the work - so people call them his trackdays. Feeling rather pedantic are we?

If you don't like being a mod you can go sniff the warm smell of colitas, rising up through the air. Up ahead in the distance, if you see a shimmering light? Your head may grow heavy and sight grow dim, you may have to stop for the night.

**spudchucka** · 17th November 2007, 05:54

Hmmm, something festers in Middle Earth me thinks.

**ManDownUnder** · 17th November 2007, 05:55

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

Is that the long version of "fit in or fuck off"?

Yup - combined with something about mountains and molehills. I'm on KB for the friends I've made on here. I'm less and less in here for the technical stuff ... just the way it goes. No big deal.

I lost... 4 or 5 thousand posts I think... something about me not being technical in here.

...ok....

I'm no less of a motorcyclist or member of KB. First and foremost I'm me.

What I see in this thread is also change - something happened such that Frosty is no longer a mod. I literally know nothing more than than, and it's only my business insofar as Frosty or anyone else involved wants my input or help with it. I'm here as always, but have no need to wade into the middle of somethign that's actually nothing directly to do with me.

Why should I?

Frosty has rightly made a good number of friends in here. He's a top top man and I'll be the first to say so.

So the "fit in or fuck off" approach is more or less right... it needs a lot more qualification than that, but yeah... it's the basis of what I said.

**justsomeguy** · 17th November 2007, 06:08

Originally Posted by ManDownUnder

Yup - combined with something about mountains and molehills. I'm on KB for the friends I've made on here. I'm less and less in here for the technical stuff ... just the way it goes. No big deal.

I lost... 4 or 5 thousand posts I think... something about me not being technical in here.

...ok....

I'm no less of a motorcyclist or member of KB. First and foremost I'm me.

What I see in this thread is also change - something happened such that Frosty is no longer a mod. I literally know nothing more than than, and it's only my business insofar as Frosty or anyone else involved wants my input or help with it. I'm here as always, but have no need to wade into the middle of somethign that's actually nothing directly to do with me.

Why should I?

Frosty has rightly made a good number of friends in here. He's a top top man and I'll be the first to say so.

So the "fit in or fuck off" approach is more or less right... it needs a lot more qualification than that, but yeah... it's the basis of what I said.

Excellent post. You too are a top man, still remember your kind words when I had the "I said I caused a crash" incident and the way you treated other KB'ers who have been given grief here. See, your actions tell us all what you are. So fitting in or fucking off to what you say is pretty acceptable to anyone with a logical mind.

Fitting in or fucking off for the heck of it, it baffles me? But then I was never the smartest person....

Anyway, the sun's coming out, heard there is a Coro Loop ride on. You guys going on it have fun.

I've got to go off and mind my own business, have a superb weekend N.

**The Stranger:Me** · 17th November 2007, 06:14

Originally Posted by Kickaha

You're being very economical with the truth there Tony and there was no suggestion made in that pm at all that you are not welcome on this site

Perhaps, however at times it can really feel that way when you find yourself in both an unreasonable and untenable situation. The term constructive dismissal is used in an employment situation.

Originally Posted by Kickaha

His trackdays were run independantly of his former status as a moderator so there is no reason they shouldn't continue

It has nothing to do with that and he is quite welcome to continue to offer his help here and use the site to run his track days

Originally Posted by Kickaha

There is nothing stopping him from still giving technical advice

Yes, but will he be inclined to? One day you may find yourself in a similar situation. You give generously and unreservedly of your time and advice and labours, you have earned the respect of your peers (note I said earned, not demanded) then you recieve a kick in the teeth. Kinda dulls your enthusiasm and makes you question if it is really all worth while don't it?
Who could blame Frosty if he did withdraw this stuff? No one, so who then?

**Grahameeboy** · 17th November 2007, 06:28

Originally Posted by busa pete

the new site name is JB [jonis bikers] here comes the infracksions

Or Joni's Bike?.............just teasing Joni............

**Grahameeboy** · 17th November 2007, 06:30

And despite all this the score is still 0 - 0 (HT)

**laRIKin** · 17th November 2007, 06:31

Originally Posted by justsomeguy

[COLOR=#ff0000]KB was and still is a great place to be, I don't see why you have to ruin it with what seems like ridiculous bureaucracy.

Spank, what's happening here?

I agree.
Just because you have the power to do something.
Because it is not quite right, does not mean you have to.

Take a chill pill.
This it not a Court of Law here.
And you do not have to follow the letter of the law/rules.
It's a bike forum and will drift about and go OT from time to time.
So what?

If we only talked about bikes, like one forum I look at the post count would be down to less than a 100.
Most of the time less than 20.

Is that what you want?