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    I got "let off" my ticket which was generous

    I asked a warden if they had been specifically told to target bikes on footpaths and he said yep and that the orders were from the City Council. Bloody Kerry! This follows her trying to charge bikes for parking in bike parks. The woman doesn't seem to comprehend that bikes create less concestion and demand for car parks which is a huge prob for Wellington.
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    Unless it is in writing you can't park on the paths and not expect a ticket .... someone saying something will not stand up at all.

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    I guess if this keeps up then we should probably do something about it.

    I vote for the 1 bike per carpark and see what happens.

    Aslong as we pay and display i dont think we should get in too much trouble.

    so shall we all set a date for a mass protest???

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    You're not allowed to pay & display. Motorcycles aren't allowed to use Pay & Display parks or multi park meters. Do NOT listen to Parkwise staff who tell you it is OK, it is expressly forbidden by council bylaw and is you get ticketed it will be a valid ticket.
    If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?



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    Hmm. How about doing it in our cages (for those of us who have them) instead?

    Stick a large sign in the back window or something, to the effect of "There isn't enough space to park my motorbike, and I can't park it here, so I brought my car and took up 6 times the space instead"

    The wording needs improvement; it needs to let people see the point rather than just making them annoyed at us, which I think the above might.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    You're not allowed to pay & display. Motorcycles aren't allowed to use Pay & Display parks or multi park meters. Do NOT listen to Parkwise staff who tell you it is OK, it is expressly forbidden by council bylaw and is you get ticketed it will be a valid ticket.
    Can you point us to the specific bylaw please? Is it on the WCC website?

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    http://wellington.govt.nz/plans/bylaws/part18.html

    18.6.5 No person shall park a motorcycle in any parking meter area controlled by a multiple parking meter, other than in any part specifically set aside for motorcycles.
    and up the top (under 18.1.1):

    Multiple Parking Meter means a parking meter which functions in respect of more than one parking space and includes pay and display parking meters.
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    OK - I found it - thanks.
    Isn't our mayor married to some old-fart bikie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    No it isn't. Bikes aren't allowed to use pay and display parks in Wellington.
    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    I don't know about you, but any time an authority figure has said something in contravention of one of their own rules it's ended in tears.

    Bikes are allowed to use buslanes unless "Specifically Excluded" or we don't feel like it.....


    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    They can get fucked.

    Quote Originally Posted by 90s View Post
    On saturday the parking wardens had parked IN the St Paul st. bikes only space. They do this all the time, and they never enforce fines for those that park in the bike space on St Pauls at weekends.
    Hypocrits.
    Welcome to NZ land of the one rule for all, and rules that don't apply to specific sections of society.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    You're not allowed to pay & display. Motorcycles aren't allowed to use Pay & Display parks or multi park meters. Do NOT listen to Parkwise staff who tell you it is OK, it is expressly forbidden by council bylaw and is you get ticketed it will be a valid ticket.

    Hang on. If you argued in court that the Councils Representative, in this case the parking "experts" Parkwise, advised you that you could park there, and the fact that 15.6.5 or what ever is not clearly visible at the pay and display meter. You could get off the fine, as you have endeavoured to obey the "expert" and the law through conscientious effort of listening to them and reading all the easily accessible public information?

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    Quote Originally Posted by sAsLEX View Post
    Hang on. If you argued in court that the Councils Representative, in this case the parking "experts" Parkwise, advised you that you could park there, and the fact that 15.6.5 or what ever is not clearly visible at the pay and display meter. You could get off the fine, as you have endeavoured to obey the "expert" and the law through conscientious effort of listening to them and reading all the easily accessible public information?
    Ignorance of the law isn't an excuse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim2 View Post
    Ignorance of the law isn't an excuse.
    But following the advice of the Subject Matter Expert, who in this case is wrong, is a valid defence I have used to get off similar tickets in the past. How are we, the simple public, meant to question these fine upstanding members of society charged with keeping our parking spaces safe and free from malignerant loiterers?

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    Parkwise aren't the legislative body making the law, they are enforcing it on behalf of WCC. Parkwise don't take you to court, WCC does. It isn't a defense. One person may get off it once using your argument, but the case law created won't be in our favour in future.
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    Question Duhhhhh.....?

    So - in Wellington, motorcycles are allowed to park in spaces with parking meters (so long as the motorcycle is not left leaning against the meter apparently.) But they aren't allowed to park in Pay & Display. Can someone help me with the logic here? Is it to do with how you might go about displaying the coupon? Or what....?

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    You can park a motorcycle in a park that uses a single parking meter. You're not allowed to park on the footpath. Period. They're just letting us get away with it. The only time you can park on the footpath is if it falls within the boundary of a building and the building owner is happy for you to park there.

    You can't use a pay and display park as Wilson's Parking don't allow motorcycles. They are private car park facilities, so they can make any rules they want.

    You can't use a parking space governed by a multi-bay parking meter. Motorcycles are specifically excluded by Council bylaw. No doubt there is a reason but the bylaw doesn't mention it.
    If a man is alone in the woods and there isn't a woke Hollywood around to call him racist, is he still white?



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    Guess the council just doesn't like motorised things being parked around the place, as apparently cyclists can chain up their red-light running, traffic-splitting, vehicle-cutting-off bikes wherever they please. Last I checked they didn't need warrants, regos or even licenses, which is good as most of them would probably fail.

    Same case as with their new sandwich board laws, one law for them, another (or several others) for everyone else. Possibly largely sour grapes due to their attempting to charge motorbike parking fees being turned down.

    That said, the amount of bikes at the corner by the top of plimmers steps on Boulcott street was getting a little out of hand.

    Maybe if they actually subsidised the bus companies a bit so they could actually service the horrible things properly to the point where they weren't so awful to use as transport.

    Hippies don't like motorbikes, and unfortunately our council is run by them. Blame the fools that voted for them.

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