Warning for bikes with transponder keys!

[K6K]

The whole point of transponder keys is that if it is stolen, the F*ckwits who took it have to replace the whole ECU. My 2006 GSXR came with two transponder keys and a little fob with a key number on that has an explanation in the manual - "don't lose the number or your f*cked." They don't say if you lose both keys you are also f*cked. Stupid me thought when I lost my first key I could use that code to get another one so I wasn't in too much of a hurry. So when the bastards who clean out all my stuff from my house took my last key I wasn't too worried, I was pretty glad they didn't manage to take my bike due to the Abus bike lock. Not for lack of trying, they violated the abus lock with a screwdriver big time. So even when my contents insurance (Fintel/tower) says, not my problem its a motor vehicle "spare part or accessory" I think OK, I'll wear the cost for a new key. Out of interest I ask my bike insurance people (Star) about it and they say "not us! that's contents insurance that is..."
Now I think the final word is I am f*cked - Suzuki NZ direct says the only option is to replace the ECM. The only figure I have so far is a guesstimate from a dealer of $2000 plus.
I have one faint hope...I think I most likely lost the first key somewhere around the house...it is time to tear it up and make it even messier than those thieving bastards left it.
Does anybody know where I can get a second hand ECU plus key? Or how much an aftermarket ECU like a Yoshimura would set me back?

[bucket boy]

I no exactly were your coming from ive imported 2007 zx14 brought it 4 weeks ago it arrives with 2 black keys 1 red key it immobiliser says got problem so peice of shit wont start does everything except start try starting at soliniod still nothing 2 weeks past now just about ready to bite the bullet take to stealership

[jafar]

You should be able to get the original key number from the dealer who sold the bike new, or from suzuki nz
Honda have a similar deal , but they supply you with 2 keys & you can order an extra 2 over the life of the bike. New ones are around $700.00 each.

[classic zed]

There is one on eBay

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/SUZUK...spagenameZWDVW

might be worth asking them if it comes with a coded key or maybe it doesnt need one.

[classic zed]

Here is one off an 06 - 07 model, post worldwide and for US$145 buy now.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/GSXR6...spagenameZWD1V

Curiously none of them mention transponder keys ...... are they different from the models here?

[K6K]

Suzuki NZ have sworn that the only way to get the bike going after both bikes have gone is to replace the ECU. I have the key code number but I have been told by the dealer and Suzuki NZ technical department that the number is only for the "cut" of the key, not the transponder. The ECU on ebay doesn't mention a key in the listing so I don't know if that would help...
This is the reason I didn't know about this and what really pisses me off:
Quote from the owners manual:

"This motorcycle comes equipped with a pair of identical ignition keys. Keep the spare key in a safe place
The key number is stamped on a plate provided with the keys. This nubmer is used when making replacement keys. Please write you key number in the box provided for you future reference. If the two keys are lost and key number is unknown, immobilizer system should be replaced."

I kept the key number, I still have the "plate" with the number on it. I don't think it is clear at all how screwed you are if you lose the keys...

[imdying]

Before you get all crazy with OEM parts, see if Yoshimura make an ECU for it. It'll be adjustable, probably won't cost much more if at all. Of course, such a thing might not exist... but with the net being what it is, it's worth investigating at least (always a chance, given yoshi are gsxr whores and all )

[rwh]

Certainly sounds dodgy. Talk to a lawyer?

Richard

[crazybigal]

see if you can buy a wreck that has the keys.
then sell off the bits to make your coin back, got to be better than paying 2k for a new ecm and keys.

The whole point of transponder keys is that if it is stolen, the F*ckwits who took it have to replace the whole ECU. My 2006 GSXR came with two transponder keys and a little fob with a key number on that has an explanation in the manual - "don't lose the number or your f*cked." They don't say if you lose both keys you are also f*cked. Stupid me thought when I lost my first key I could use that code to get another one so I wasn't in too much of a hurry. So when the bastards who clean out all my stuff from my house took my last key I wasn't too worried, I was pretty glad they didn't manage to take my bike due to the Abus bike lock. Not for lack of trying, they violated the abus lock with a screwdriver big time. So even when my contents insurance (Fintel/tower) says, not my problem its a motor vehicle "spare part or accessory" I think OK, I'll wear the cost for a new key. Out of interest I ask my bike insurance people (Star) about it and they say "not us! that's contents insurance that is..."
Now I think the final word is I am f*cked - Suzuki NZ direct says the only option is to replace the ECM. The only figure I have so far is a guesstimate from a dealer of $2000 plus.
I have one faint hope...I think I most likely lost the first key somewhere around the house...it is time to tear it up and make it even messier than those thieving bastards left it.
Does anybody know where I can get a second hand ECU plus key? Or how much an aftermarket ECU like a Yoshimura would set me back?

[cowpoos]

yoshi ecu is a kit race ecu...it will work with a road harness I understand...but still needs transponder key...failing that...you can buy a yoshi race harness and not need transponder key...but...you will then be unable to run headlights,indercators etc!! lol

My advise...ring suzuki NZ your self...see if you get better customer support direct...and also...I personally think that the motorbike insurance outfit shouldn't just fob you off like that...as acc and theift should be part of policy...go read your policy..and see if there are exclusions etc???

[imdying]

yoshi ecu is a kit race ecu...it will work with a road harness I understand...but still needs transponder key...failing that...you can buy a yoshi race harness and not need transponder key...but...you will then be unable to run headlights,indercators etc!! lol

Cheers for the info cp

[classic zed]

Another point worth mentioning to the insurance company is that now the thieves have the key they might come back for the bike.

If the locks and ecu are changed the bike is relatively safe, which is cheaper for them, replace the ECU or the complete bike?

[K6K]

yoshi ecu is a kit race ecu...it will work with a road harness I understand...but still needs transponder key...failing that...you can buy a yoshi race harness and not need transponder key...but...you will then be unable to run headlights,indercators etc!! lol

My advise...ring suzuki NZ your self...see if you get better customer support direct...and also...I personally think that the motorbike insurance outfit shouldn't just fob you off like that...as acc and theift should be part of policy...go read your policy..and see if there are exclusions etc???

I wondered about the yoshi wiring harness etc....
I am going to push this with the insurance co'....
I have rung suzuki NZ...they have stated that once the keys are gone...no option but to replace ECU.

[Pussy]

the US and Canadian spec bikes don't have the transponder/immobiliser set up.
Might be worth a crack getting hold of an ECU from one of them?

[K6K]

Another point worth mentioning to the insurance company is that now the thieves have the key they might come back for the bike.

If the locks and ecu are changed the bike is relatively safe, which is cheaper for them, replace the ECU or the complete bike?

I did call and ask them about this...to make sure I didn't withhold info etc so if it did get stolen I would be covered. Star said they didn't expect me to replace the ignition/ecu etc. and at the time I didn't expect it to cost so much.