Warning for bikes with transponder keys!

**K6K** · 20th November 2007, 17:49

Originally Posted by Pussy

the US and Canadian spec bikes don't have the transponder/immobiliser set up.
Might be worth a crack getting hold of an ECU from one of them?

Thanks, I thought the Canadian keys didn't have transponders but I didn't know about the US. I hadn't thought of sourcing one there.

**classic zed** · 20th November 2007, 17:54

The ones I listed from eBay are from the states, I wouldnt think there would be much if any difference afterall the other components in the system should be the same

**ArcherWC** · 20th November 2007, 19:10

Just be aware that they often have different ECU's (or mapping) in the states because of their emmision rules. and as such can be WAY down on power etc. I have heard of cases of up to half the Hp lost

***caution*** · 20th November 2007, 19:38

So what if you just lose one key? can they replace that?

**Pussy** · 20th November 2007, 19:52

Originally Posted by *caution*

So what if you just lose one key? can they replace that?

Yep, I believe Suzuki can transfer transponder information between keys, the owners manual says something about a maximum of two extra keys

**K6K** · 20th November 2007, 20:06

YEEEEAH I found the original key that I lost!!! after tearing apart my house and finding crap that I never new I lost, it was hidden in the deepest darkest recesses of the lazyboy chair. Ive looked in there several times (for other lost items) and never seen it. After pulling the back off and finding a small hole in the internal stitching it was found!!!

I am f*ckin stoked to find it. I also found enough gold and silver coins to pay for the replacement spare (almost anyway)

So happy ending for me, I'm going to get the replacement spare coded tomorrow. Lesson learned, those of you with transponder keys take note!!

Cheers guys

**Pussy** · 20th November 2007, 20:19

Originally Posted by K6K

YEEEEAH I found the original key that I lost!!! after tearing apart my house and finding crap that I never new I lost, it was hidden in the deepest darkest recesses of the lazyboy chair. Ive looked in there several times (for other lost items) and never seen it. After pulling the back off and finding a small hole in the internal stitching it was found!!!

I am f*ckin stoked to find it. I also found enough gold and silver coins to pay for the replacement spare (almost anyway)

So happy ending for me, I'm going to get the replacement spare coded tomorrow. Lesson learned, those of you with transponder keys take note!!

Cheers guys

Great news! Now, have a spare key surgically attached to yourself

***caution*** · 20th November 2007, 20:20

Originally Posted by Pussy

Yep, I believe Suzuki can transfer transponder information between keys, the owners manual says something about a maximum of two extra keys

sweet better spread the word to my dad, he just bought a K7 thou....

well done with finding your keys mate, you'd be stoked!!!

**NinjaBoy** · 20th November 2007, 20:33

Originally Posted by K6K

YEEEEAH I found the original key that I lost!!! after tearing apart my house and finding crap that I never new I lost, it was hidden in the deepest darkest recesses of the lazyboy chair. Ive looked in there several times (for other lost items) and never seen it. After pulling the back off and finding a small hole in the internal stitching it was found!!!

I am f*ckin stoked to find it. I also found enough gold and silver coins to pay for the replacement spare (almost anyway)

So happy ending for me, I'm going to get the replacement spare coded tomorrow. Lesson learned, those of you with transponder keys take note!!

Cheers guys

Great news ! I was discussing this very problem with Leong on the weekend with my GSXR as I only have one key and nothing else. I obviously need to do the same pronto

**Wheeliemonsta** · 21st November 2007, 10:11

Soloution to the whole problem is pretty obvious

DON'T LOSE YOUR FUCKING KEYS...

I mean for god sake guys were all supposed to be intelligent adults here, are we not...?

Is it just me or do I see a bunch of people bleating & moaning about something you would have been well advised about, had you taken the time to sit down & read your owners handbook...

Take some responsabilty for your own actions here folks, instead of trying to blame someone else for your own ineptitude...

Just my humble opinion

Cheers

**vifferman** · 21st November 2007, 10:27

Glad you found the spare, K6K!

I was a bit pissed off when I discovered my Euro-spec RC46 didn't have the H.I.S.S. (Honda Integrated Security System) the 2001 models were supposed to have, but I'm rather glad now it doesn't. I still have both keys AND the tag, but I don't really need any other electronic malarkey, which is what has stopped me fitting a bike alarm.

**klyong82** · 21st November 2007, 19:26

Originally Posted by *caution*

So what if you just lose one key? can they replace that?

My Fireblade came with one HISS key so they just recorded the tag and the numbers on my ignition HISS barrel and ordered another key for me. It took 2 and the half months to finally get as it came from Honda Japan. Do not know how much it cost as it was part of the condition when I bought the bike.

So don't lose your keys. Can be expensive and an lengthy wait.

**K6K** · 21st November 2007, 22:18

Originally Posted by Wheeliemonsta

Soloution to the whole problem is pretty obvious

DON'T LOSE YOUR FUCKING KEYS...

I mean for god sake guys were all supposed to be intelligent adults here, are we not...?

Is it just me or do I see a bunch of people bleating & moaning about something you would have been well advised about, had you taken the time to sit down & read your owners handbook...

Take some responsabilty for your own actions here folks, instead of trying to blame someone else for your own ineptitude...

Just my humble opinion

Cheers

er yes that solution is obvious as you stated...the obvious.
I have met people before who are so super anal that they would never lose their keys...I usually try to only meet them once though. If someone does reveal their own ineptitude by misplacing one of their keys and their owners manual doesn't state that their remaining key is now worth $3000 if lost or stolen....Well they might appreciate a "Warning for bikes with Transponder Keys!"
Or the thread could have just been "dont lose your fucking keys dumbass!" Obviously.

**pete376403** · 22nd November 2007, 22:05

Originally Posted by K6K

. So even when my contents insurance (Fintel/tower) says, not my problem its a motor vehicle "spare part or accessory" I think OK, I'll wear the cost for a new key. Out of interest I ask my bike insurance people (Star) about it and they say "not us! that's contents insurance that is..."

I'd be having Star on about this - it's a part of the bike. Without the key the bike is unuseable, ie it's a write off. they can either pay out the whole insured value or replace the ECU (less your excess ) IMHO of course.
However now you've found the key the point is moot.
On a slightly insurance related note - I was talking to a car dealer today - discussing airbags. He said that with some cars, when the bags go off - the car becomes a write off, as the cost of replacing the dash panels, steering wheel, door panels and roof lining (for those exotics that have full surround air bags) exceeds the value of the car. No wonder premiums are skyrocketing.