Dilemma

**StoneChucker** · 28th October 2004, 10:05

It would be stupid to ride the bike without comprehensive insurance. But, you can arrange this, it wouldn't cost much for the month.

I think one good thing about looking after the bike, would be that you'd get a feel for the bike, and what you like / don't like, which will help you make your mind up when you're ready to buy. Don't always listen to people who say "it's too powerful", or, "you'll crash" "it'll eat you alive", etc... It's all a load of bollocks. ANY bike, thats any bike can be ridden safely, it depends on how you ride it. If you're a mature rider, who knows how to take things easy, I say go for it. Me for example, my second bike (after my learners 250cc) was the new R1. And I can ride it as slow as I want, it's actually bloody easy to ride. Obviously you have to have a steady throttle hand, but that really isn't hard, and it's quite forgiving. NOW please, no stupid cracks at me having binned recently, that could have been a whole bunch of things. I'm certain it was nothing I did differently, it was a tyre/road surface related bin, on a road I ride very often (and I wasn't even going all that fast).

You make your own mind up, but don't ride without FULL insurace cover.
Let us know how you go, and what you decide to buy

Dave.

**Hitcher** · 28th October 2004, 10:10

A horned dilemma or a polled dilemma?

My policy is that if you borrow something you return it in at least as good condition as it was when you borrowed it. If you are prepared to enter into a "contract" on this basis, then ride the R1.

Also heed the advice given above and please don't kill yourself on it.

**Coldkiwi** · 28th October 2004, 12:09

Without insurance I wouldn't go near it mate. You will be wanting to give it the berries (which is why you're excited about it of course) and its nieve not to at least have a plan in place to take care of the worst case. If he DOES get insurance sorted for you take it nice and easy because 1 litre sport bikes really don't handle fools very well ('forgiving' can generally consist of letting you off the bike while its moving!).

p.s. How many demerit points have you got up your sleeve? anything less than 50 and you'd want to give it 2nd thoughts as well.

**munter** · 28th October 2004, 12:16

Originally Posted by Coldkiwi

p.s. How many demerit points have you got up your sleeve? anything less than 50 and you'd want to give it 2nd thoughts as well.

No demerit point

: but looking at giving it a miss..... you know murphys law - If something bad can happen, it will at the worste posible time :disapint:

**Ghost Lemur** · 28th October 2004, 12:45

Originally Posted by munter

No demerit point

: but looking at giving it a miss..... you know murphys law - If something bad can happen, it will at the worste posible time :disapint:

hehe

*looks down at sig*

Sounds like you're doing the "mature" thing. REALLY hurts sometimes doesn't it? Should put you in good speed with the wife though, showing your mature enough to have your own bike. Lets face it, that's when you're really going to have some fun.

**munter** · 28th October 2004, 12:52

Originally Posted by Ghost Lemur

hehe

*looks down at sig*

Sounds like you're doing the "mature" thing. REALLY hurts sometimes doesn't it? Should put you in good speed with the wife though, showing your mature enough to have your own bike. Lets face it, that's when you're really going to have some fun.

Yep! and my wife is now really looking forward to ridding pillion

- She was really looking forward to riding on the back of the R1 till she found out about the lack of insurance.

**riffer** · 28th October 2004, 13:12

Sorry munter.

But inexperience + R1 = potential death.

Can't agree with Stonechucker on this one.

The R1 is one of the fastest bikes you can get. Yes, you can ride it lamely but that's not the point. What is the point is whether you can handle he bike. And that's more than just not pulling back the throttle. That's only self control. I've been riding for yonks, but I would think seriously about borrowing an R1.

To use a sporting analogy its like fitness compared to match fitness. Unless you are riding all the time, don't even THINK you can ride one of these safely.

There's worse things that can happen than just binning it. You could kill yourself.

**Pwalo** · 28th October 2004, 13:35

Originally Posted by munter

Yep! and my wife is now really looking forward to ridding pillion

- She was really looking forward to riding on the back of the R1 till she found out about the lack of insurance.

All I can say is that your wife is very brave, immune to pain, or very petite if she's keen to have a go on the back of the R1.

My advice is the same as most of the others. Get something a bit less over the top and get a few k's under your belt before you consider trading up to an R1.

**F5 Dave** · 28th October 2004, 14:41

Yeah I had a very experienced friend who got spat from his R1 commuting to work as it ‘lit–up’ the rear wheel whilst cornering. A moment’s inattention from an experienced rider.

Don’t be a born-again casualty. After years of not riding you will be rusty as. Embrace this as an opportunity to relearn what you have forgotten. Welcome back to the bar(s).

**munter** · 28th October 2004, 14:45

Originally Posted by F5 Dave

Yeah I had a very experienced friend who got spat from his R1 commuting to work as it ‘lit–up’ the rear wheel whilst cornering. A moment’s inattention from an experienced rider.

Don’t be a born-again casualty. After years of not riding you will be rusty as. Embrace this as an opportunity to relearn what you have forgotten. Welcome back to the bar(s).

Cheers F5 Dave - wise words indeed.

Will wait tilll I get my own bike in another month

**StoneChucker** · 28th October 2004, 14:49

I have to agree, to disagree...
I took JazBug5 on the back of my R1, and I am super inexperienced. It's not a friggen A-Bomb, ride slow, you'll be fine.

BUT, if you can't ride slow, or have a momentary lapese of restraint, then beware

But insurance is the main point.

But OVERALL, regardless of how easy whatever bikes are to ride, you'll have more fun on yours, since it is just that, yours.

Take care.

**munter** · 28th October 2004, 14:53

Thanks StoneChucker - I think I am just too much risk-adverse. Maybe if I didnt have a little 18mth girl or married and a litlle younger I would. Geeze I feel really old and far too mature.