Correct procedure for handing out a ticket.

[marty]

Well, this is all very interesting. You see I was in court the other day (helping), and the police woman said whilst on the witness stand that you don't have to stop for the police and they can't do anything if you simply drive away. The big problem the police actually have is that when they do stop you there ask them if they are detaining you, if the answer is no...drive off - if the answer is yes then they must read you your rights (to remain silent).

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unfortunately, this police officer does not know what she is talking about. they are entitled to detain you for up to 15 minutes on the roadside, to carry out appropriate checks and write infringments. any longer, and you'll need to be either being processed for drink driving, or under arrest - both of which trying to leave from will get you into a fair bit of trouble.

failing to stop, or failing to remain stopped, will also bring a healthy dose of sirens and pepper spray.

S114 LT ACt 1998 is pretty clear.

Land Transport Act 1998
Part 9 Enforcement of responsibilities (s 113 to s 132)
General enforcement powers
114 Power to require driver to stop and give name and address, etc

		(1)An enforcement officer who is in uniform, or wearing a distinctive cap, hat, or helmet, with a badge of authority affixed to it, may signal or request the driver of a vehicle to stop the vehicle as soon as is practicable.

		(2)An enforcement officer in a vehicle following another vehicle may, by displaying flashing blue, or blue and red, lights or sounding a siren, require the driver of the other vehicle to stop.

		Subject to subsections (4) and (5), the driver of a vehicle that is stopped by an enforcement officer under this Act must remain stopped for as long as is reasonably necessary for the enforcement officer to complete the exercise of any powers conferred, or duties imposed, on an enforcement officer by this Act.]

		An enforcement officer may require the driver of a vehicle that is stopped under this Act to—

		Remain stopped for as long as is reasonably necessary for an enforcement officer to obtain the particulars referred to in paragraph (b), or to complete the exercise of any other power conferred on an enforcement officer by this Act; and

		On demand by an enforcement officer,—

		Give his or her name and address and date of birth, or such of those particulars as the enforcement officer may specify; and

		(ii)State whether or not he or she is the owner of the vehicle; and

		(iii)If the driver is not the owner of the vehicle, give the name and address of the owner or such particulars within the driver's knowledge as may lead to the identification of the owner.

		(4)The driver of a vehicle that is stopped under subsection (2) is not obliged to remain stopped if the vehicle with flashing lights and siren does not itself stop in the near vicinity of the place where the driver has stopped.

		(5)An enforcement officer may require a driver to remain stopped on a road for as long as is reasonably necessary to enable the officer to establish the identity of the driver, but not for longer than 15 minutes if the requirement to remain stopped is made under this subsection only.

		(6)An enforcement officer may arrest a person without warrant if the officer has good cause to suspect the person of having—

		(a)Failed to comply with this section or a signal or request or requirement under this section; or

		(b)Given false or misleading information under this section.

[marty]

i must say, after having this discussion AGAIN, it constantly amazes me how thoroughly deluded some people on this site are!

[Squiggles]

lol, i love reading spud and scummy's posts, such entertainment.

[marty]

well after being infracted for giving swan tiger some most excellent advice, good luck RM in getting off your latest ticket, and extra good luck to all those who think they can drive off from/not stop for those nasty men with the ticket books.

[scumdog]

So I've got this parking ticket for $12.....that went throught the District Court, guilty (now $12 with $30 costs), council asked for $55 in costs - refused.....appealed to the High Court - ordered to pay the $42, but no other costs (as the council had lied to the court on a previous occassion)....it's now over two years old.....and I still haven't paid. Yes the ministry of justice write to me....and I write back.....and they write to me...and I write back etc etc.....then they give up. Then the letters start again....so I ask what it's all about etc etc. With the council's costs at a couple of thousand and the courts costs at perhaps a thousand it is very good value for money and recommended for everyone.

Parking tickets don't count as 'REAL' tickets, sheesh!

And to drive off before a cop has had a chance to check your licence etc is asking for trouble.....but do so if you want....Mwahahahahaha!

[The Pastor]

ok prehaps my post was slightly stupid, but that guy driving off before the cops, priceless.

[Headbanger]

The judge laid into the cops as well.

Oooh, I bet that had them worried!

Why, because they don't have to give a shit about following the laws?

You think that may contribute to the negative view so many people have of the cops?

Ah well, Nothing a ticket writing campaign can't fix. Penalize honest people for not having the correct sticker on their wagon.

[Toaster]

he wasnt wearing a hat, i heard a rumor that they have to.

Yes well that is typical of the bullshit kids talk about thinking they know the law better than the police.

Wearing a hat has nothing to do with it and you would look like even more of a twat trying to defend that on a fashion technicality.

Pay your fine.

[Toaster]

i must say, after having this discussion AGAIN, it constantly amazes me how thoroughly deluded some people on this site are!

Well said. It's getting like groundhog day.

[The Pastor]

The only people who pay tickets are the good guys, The bad guys are the ones that dont pay the tickets - or turn up to court.

basterds.

[spudchucka]

Well, this is all very interesting. You see I was in court the other day (helping), and the police woman said whilst on the witness stand that you don't have to stop for the police and they can't do anything if you simply drive away. The big problem the police actually have is that when they do stop you there ask them if they are detaining you, if the answer is no...drive off - if the answer is yes then they must read you your rights (to remain silent).

If anyone is interested I have some good methods of having some real fun with those brain dead individuals at the Police Infringement Bureau. It won't cost you a cent with a real chance of a ticket ending up in the "too hard" basket. Does it work? Oh yes! The Police have dropped the last three tickets against me, I've helped a company avoid paying over $1000 in fines for a dozen tickets - and got a few others that have been ongoing for literally months.

Everyone should fight every single ticket, and at least ensure that the cost of trying to collect the fine is more than the fine.

So I've got this parking ticket for $12.....that went throught the District Court, guilty (now $12 with $30 costs), council asked for $55 in costs - refused.....appealed to the High Court - ordered to pay the $42, but no other costs (as the council had lied to the court on a previous occassion)....it's now over two years old.....and I still haven't paid. Yes the ministry of justice write to me....and I write back.....and they write to me...and I write back etc etc.....then they give up. Then the letters start again....so I ask what it's all about etc etc. With the council's costs at a couple of thousand and the courts costs at perhaps a thousand it is very good value for money and recommended for everyone.

Top advice there matey, you go straight to the top of the idiot meter.

[vifferman]

Top advice there matey, you go straight to the top of the idiot meter.

Yeah, very good.
I have recent personal evidence of the effectiveness of the "If I make a run for it, there's a chance I can get away scott-free" method of handling the police.

[jahrasti]

The only people who pay tickets are the good guys, The bad guys are the ones that dont pay the tickets - or turn up to court.

basterds.

The good thing is that balifs (sp?) can impound cars and sell them to recover unpaid fines.
a boy racer car $10 000
unpaid fines $ 1 000
watching them cry as it is taken away PRICELESS.

[The Pastor]

your a moron, howd u like the cops to take ur bike?

[jahrasti]

your a moron, howd u like the cops to take ur bike?

Thanks I like to live with my head in the sand.
Did I say COPS?, I said Balifs(sp). That is the dept of erections, they can take your property and sell it.
And far as how would I like it? It would be shit. As a fine upstanding person held in high regard in his community who pays his fines, I think it is an awesome idea.