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    Alcosensor question

    I've never heard of a successful method for fooling an alcosensor but a mouthful of activated charcoal would be a good try. I suspect the officer might not be particularly helpful.

    What does the manual say about a suspect having something in his mouth? Can he be required to clear his mouth before blowing?

    What if he took a mouthful of fluid and blew that in?

    I had a case once where the defendant blew cigarette smoke into the device with a positive result. Got a letter from DSIR later saying it would elevate the reading. The judge shrugged.......

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    Yes he could blow in a mouthful of fluid, and damage the circuits... There is a "spit trap" to catch the usual amounts, but a mouthful...

    After the blood test is taken, he would then be charged with intentional damage and billed accordingly... those things cost much moolah...

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    I know a way, but i dont want to publish it on the interweb thingy.

    Needs some skill and luck though....

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    Pardon my inner innocent for asking but, why would you want to fool it in the first place?

    "Don't drink and drive" I thought was a reasonnable enough concept. Also these days, youc an buy portable breathalisers for bugger all, and test yourself before driving, if in doubt.

    I'm not trying to be PC, just trying to understand why you'd want an answer to such a question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007XX View Post
    Pardon my inner innocent for asking but, why would you want to fool it in the first place?
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    Tried a neat thing this weekend.

    Took the car to a party and was kinda planning on sleeping over. Party died a bit earlier than I'd expected (what is it with the kiwis and going home to sleep around midnight?)...
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    The one time I've ever been stopped in this country the plod just held up this thing in front of my mouth as I told him my name and address, so I guess it might have been a bit obvious if I had a mouthful of something...

    It was the night before the round Taupo pushy race, so I hadn't had a drink for a week and I was still nervous about the outcome...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MisterD View Post
    The one time I've ever been stopped in this country the plod just held up this thing in front of my mouth as I told him my name and address, so I guess it might have been a bit obvious if I had a mouthful of something...

    It was the night before the round Taupo pushy race, so I hadn't had a drink for a week and I was still nervous about the outcome...
    I think the sniffer (talk into this) is different thing to the "blow in this bit machine"

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    The sniffer just gives an indicatory reading. if you fail that you then need to blow for the officer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    if you fail that you then need to blow for the officer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Winston001 View Post
    What does the manual say about a suspect having something in his mouth? Can he be required to clear his mouth before blowing?

    What if he took a mouthful of fluid and blew that in?


    Now, picture this with this person being the one to be breathalised at the time!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Time to cut out the "holier/more enlightened than thou" bullshit and the "slut" comments and let people live honestly how they like providing they're not harming themselves or others in the process.

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    Nice picture. Why don't you improve the thread and post a bunch more?

    The sniffer machines are quite sensitive on the passive test, even a good fart will give a positive result. Don't ask me how I know that though.

    They do have the ability to give road side evidential test results but that function isn't used in NZ.

    I've never had anyone actually beat the test although I've nearly died laughing at drunken idiots trying to breathe through their ears while they pretend to blow.

    Either way the cop can take you back for an evidential breath test if he has reasonable grounds to believe you are intoxicated and once you've worked for the police for longer than five minutes you become a rather good judge of intoxication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spudchucka View Post
    Nice picture. Why don't you improve the thread and post a bunch more?
    Thanks, but I might get rapped on the knuckles for it, and frankly, I ain't in the mood...

    However, check this little slice of KB heaven:

    http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/sh...50#post1323850
    Quote Originally Posted by Wolf View Post
    Time to cut out the "holier/more enlightened than thou" bullshit and the "slut" comments and let people live honestly how they like providing they're not harming themselves or others in the process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Usarka View Post
    The sniffer just gives an indicatory reading. if you fail that you then need to blow the officer.
    Shit Id rather pay the Fine!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 007XX View Post

    I'm not trying to be PC, just trying to understand why you'd want an answer to such a question.
    Trust me, I'm no fan of drinking and driving. I'm just curious about the instruction manual for using alcosensors. So far as I know, this is not public information.

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