Plodding along at his own pace
I had a look at this idea myself and found some useful info on the customs site , and the details of requirements.
Have a read of those and make your decisions from there, there are ideas of the costs etc if you are moving, or you are just going to use your bike to tour.
I understand the licence issue is you can use your NZ one for up to 12 months, no international licence required.
Its not the destination that is important its the journey.
Where's the ride?
You should understand that in Australia transport is mostly a state-based system. You are going to NSW, so you should read up on the Roads & Traffic Authority, NSW. Advice about the situation in Queensland could be completely and utterly irrelevant to NSW. They certainly have a few whacky rules up there that don't exist anywhere else in the country - and I don't just mean bike-related- solo motorcycle rego being one of them.
However customs and importing is a Federal department, you've already got the urls for that.
I looked long and hard at taking bikes back to Aus with me 3 years ago. It just wasn't worth it. Way too much trouble, too much expense. In NSW you need a compliance plate, or an exemption. At the time I even had a bike sold new in NZ with an Aussie compliance plate as it was stock ex-Aus bumped across to NZ (and actually traded that bike against another that also has a compliance plate, NZ-new stock ex-Aus). Still wasn't worth it. Even if you are migrating, you still have to pay the taxes inbound AND you can't get a refund on the NZ taxes because the vehicle was used here.
If you are only intending to use the bike for 3-4 months, even less worth it!! I understand you want to keep it, fine, keep it in NZ. Don't shunt it to Aus and back for merely a couple of months of use. (Unless I read your mission statement incorrectly, that you are coming back to Aus not NZ?)
The only bike I would take back to Aus is my Triumph - same as yourself, lots of blood sweat and tears in it - but it was from there so it will only cost shipping plus proof it was sold & used (therefore taxed, certified and registered) in NSW previously. It came to NZ tax-free when I immigrated, but Aus does not allow the same thing to happen in the other direction. Before anyone jumps on the Aussie-bashing bandwagon, it's swings and roundabouts: NZ won't let you import your wine cellar tax-free.
Oh, and AFAIK international licences are only issued to full licence holders (check the AA web site). They aren't really required in English-first-language countries as they are just a translation document, they are not a licence in their own right, your "home" licence must be current. Yes you see lots of advice to make sure you get one, and I have done, they might be worth something in legal terms but the bloke I hired from in Aus was much more interested in my actual NZ licence than the international one... or my still-current NSW one showing my parents' address.
Information about your licence situation will be found on the RTA web site. Note that they have the Learner Approved Motorcycle scheme over there now, all the 250cc 2T race-reps are banned, so you may not be able to ride your expensively-imported RS250 on the licence you will get!
So... have a good read of the web sites, I don't have all the references to hand but that's partly because it was all there easy to find. Feel free to ask questions if you need any 'interpretation' of the docs you find.
And good luck with the long-term plan!
Cheers,
Colin
Originally Posted by Steve McQueen
Hardcore Biker
contact get routed . they ship all the time . between nz ans aussie
Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove
Having brought a motorbike to Victoria this year, I can comment on what it took to get it here.
1. Apply to DOTARS and ask for import approval PRIOR to shipping the bike.
2. It must have a compliance plate fitted that it has been manufacured to meet the relevent Australian standard, a photograph of this plate must be sent with the application, along with the VIN number and photographs of every page of your current passport, your ownership papers and purchase and sale agreement indicating the value of the motorcycle. This whole process can take up to 6 weeks (they say 21 days, but it takes much longer).
3. Once you have been supplied an import certificate you can ship the bike.
4. Once it arrives you will have to pay GST 10% and duty 10% and any other customs and AQIS charges.
5. You must then book in for a roadworthy certificate (motorcyce shop), much more intensive than the good old NZ WOF, if you bike is not completely stock, you will not have much show of passing. Cost is about $90. I had to take out the LED tail light on the BMW K1200S and put in the stock one at the shop.
6. Once you have a roadworthy, you need to then book in to the local roading authority, $35 (or there abouts) fee applies, and you must book, can take 14 days to get an appointment. Take all your import certificates and paperwork and the value of the motorcycle that customs charged you GST and duty on.
7. They will do a REVS check (stolen, outstanding money etc).
8. They will check that the frame number and engine number match the supplied paperwork. Check that it is roadworthy (certificate). You will also have to provide 100 points of ID (passport, photo drivers licence, bank statement with residentail address where you are going to register vehicle to, credit card etc)
9. Calculate the stamp duty payable (based on the customs declared value).
10. Rego will be $500 plus OZ dollars and stamp duty is around 7% of declared value.
11. Issue with a plate.
If you are a resident in Australia, you have to obtain an Australian drivers licence in 3 months. You are not even allowed to reside interstate for more than 3 months with out having that state or territories licence. You are not able to hold more than 1 drivers licence (they will void your NZ one by hole punching the photo)
It is a LOT of fun!
On Time .... In Spec .... On Budget .... Yeah Right!
Where's the ride?
Good info, but again this is a different state so the costs & processes can be different to NSW. The process is in two sections; firstly importing (federal jurisdiction) and secondly road registration (state). Bizarrely the Compliance system is actually federal, but the states are not legally obliged to take heed of it.
As I read it, if you don't have an Aussie compliance plate (you can be lucky as mentioned above) then in NSW they now have a 'private import' class whereby if your bike meets the criteria in its home market, and that market is substantially the same as Aus, then it's given a special plate. Something along those lines, anyway.
One thing not yet mentioned is the NSW 'green slip' or Compulsory Third Party insurance. This covers personal injury to everyone except the driver at fault, and is around $500. You must have this to complete your registration. This is equivalent to NZ's ACC levies.
Yeah, it's fun, don't forget Aussie is one of the most bureaucratic nations on earth!
Cheers,
Colin
Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove
The process might differ slightly, the Federal part would be the same though.
The rego portion included the $300 dollars of CTP, rego was about $250, CTP is also required in VIC.
The importation process is faster if does have compliance plate fitted (ex manufacturer) as it can be approved on that basis (manufactured to meet ADR's), rather than needing an "equivalency" plate.
If you bike has a VIN plate that states "This vehicle is manufactured to comply with the motor vehicle standards act 1989" the importation will be straight forward (Federal).
You also need to have owned the bike in NZ for 12 months.
On Time .... In Spec .... On Budget .... Yeah Right!
Hardcore Biker
Keep the info coming boys, titaniums post makes it seem like its not worth the hassle but im still determined to make it happen, I havent had a chance to read the above posted sites but I will be able to this weekend...
Keep the posts coming, as the new year rolls round sorting my bikes transport will be my priority..
Yes I have owned the bike more than 12 months
tit - how long did the process take you from when you put it on a ship to the day it was legit ??
How long was it from when you shipped it to when It was released by customs into your possesion ??
which shipping company did you use ?
Confident the aprilia rsv4, IS the one
Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove
Jade,
Applied to DOTARS early February 2007 for import approval.
Dropped bike off to shippers 15th February, shippers packed in BMW crate.
5th March 2007 import approval certificates arrived. Instructed shippers to export crated BMWK1200S
Bike shipped 21st March.
Bike arrived Melbourne docks (in a shared container) 9th April
Bike arrived cutoms clearing agent (Melbourne) 13th April
Bike Collected ex clearing agent 19th April
Roadworthy 20th April
Registration (on roads etc) 30th April 2007.
So it took 2 months from time approval was given by DOTARS.
My movers shipped it via movements international and a groupage container (shared). I was allowed to crate it with a battery (disconnected) and 1/4 tank fuel.
On Time .... In Spec .... On Budget .... Yeah Right!
Moped rider
cant you just get an Carnet de Passage or just do a temporary import.
I'm having a temp import on my bike (shipped it from holland) and didnt have to pay any taxes cause i told them that i owned the bike for more then one year.
I had a bit of trouble with MAF (i'd to be steamcleaned) wich raised the costs a little and was a bugger but i didn't find it to much trouble to get te bike into nz.
Planning on going to ozzie after my year in NZ so following this topic.
The websites of the nz government where really helpfull, i'd take a look at the ozzie ones and they look pretty clear to me aswell so check them out i'd say.
Mabye i missed your point but i think just getting a carnet is the easiest way!
gd luck and a merry xmas.
tim
Iron Fist in a Velvet Glove
it is all covered here http://www.aaa.asn.au/touring/bringing.htm#carnet
I think there might be a requirement that you have to be with your vehicle for the time it is in the country.
He has indicated that he plans to be in OZ for only a few months, then leave the country, leaving his bike here, not sure he would qualify.
I am pretty sure you have to pay a bond for a carnet,
Cheers
On Time .... In Spec .... On Budget .... Yeah Right!
L-Plate Rider
You mentioned you were moving to sydney right?? mmmm I heard from one of my dad's mates across the road, who actually lives in sydney most of the time, that its quite a dnagerous thing riding in sydney cos the motorists just ain't lookin for ya
I don't remember why you asked me that question.
Moped rider
what's new ? they don't anywhere
Hardcore Biker
im still in sydneywhat happened too you
Hardcore Biker
Post a picture of your rg500 fredie...
Confident the aprilia rsv4, IS the one
could catch a monkey
If you will only be using it in AU for a few months before leaving it in storage in AU and then bringing it back here after 5 years, why not leave it in storage here, go to AU, buy a shitter for a few months, then go do your OE??
Although, I shudder to think what 5 years in storage will do to a bike.
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