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    Dome Valley cheesecutter barriers

    Dont know if anyone else has spotted this:
    As published in the Mahurangi & Nothern Matters:

    Motorcyclists oppose ‘cheesecutter’ barriers

    The installation of wire rope barriers alongside State Highway One south of Wellsford has brought the “cheesecutter” issue close to home for local motorcyclists.

    The barriers hit the news recently when a 21-year-old crashed his bike at high speed on Auckland’s southern motorway and was cut in half by the wires. Motorcycle groups around the country are asking for a moratorium on the use of the barriers, which they say not only dismember bikers but can also slice through car pillars and kill the occupants.

    Automotive journalist and motorcycle enthusiast Peter Callen, who was part of a group visiting the Puhoi Pub recently, says the barriers are a budget solution to the problem of head-on crashes.

    “Transit is taking a cavalier attitude to people’s lives,” he says. “When it comes to cars they will prevent a few head-ons, but everyone I speak to on two wheels is one hundred percent opposed to those cheesecutters.”

    Transit New Zealand’s northern operations manager, Joseph Flanagan, says the Dome Valley has one of the highest crash rates in the country through vehicle loss of control. The flexible wire rope barriers are used on the sides of the road not because they are cheaper, but because they contain vehicles more effectively than semi rigid barriers, preventing them from bouncing back onto the road and potentially causing a head on crash with more severe injury consequences.

    “There is no evidence of wire rope barriers posing any more of a danger to motorcyclists than other barriers,” Mr Flanagan says.

    “Motorcyclists are likely to sustain similarly serious injuries if they were to crash into another type of barrier or, if the barrier was not there, into oncoming traffic or a roadside hazard.”

    Mr Flanagan says Transit continues to exchange ideas and experience with its colleagues overseas and is keeping a watching brief on trials of products aimed at making barriers more forgiving if hit by a motorcyclist.

    “We’ll also be looking for opportunities to meet with motorcyclists to hear their concerns and share information with them.”

    Hundreds of motorcyclists took part in several protest rides last month, and a petition is circulating asking for a moratorium on the construction of wire-rope barriers until officials examine the international evidence and develop traffic barrier options that are safer for bikers. To find out more visit www.cheesecutters.co.nz.


    So i now have a choice if a car crosses the middleline. I hit the car or aim for the Wire Barrier.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDuck View Post
    So i now have a choice if a car crosses the middleline. I hit the car or aim for the Wire Barrier.....

    Thank God we have a choice! Imagine having no option but to get hurt because they were only out ot save money.
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    we are fast running out of options on the road if shit hits the fan.....
    while down south we came across a piece of road that was cheesecutters on the sides and the centre lane..... shame too it was a nice bit of road.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDuck View Post
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    “There is no evidence of wire rope barriers posing any more of a danger to motorcyclists than other barriers,” Mr Flanagan says.

    ......
    I've never seen or heard of a concrete barrier cutting a body in two
    I wonder if this git can look back and see daylight?? (head up arse attitude)
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSTRS View Post
    I've never seen or heard of a concrete barrier cutting a body in two
    I wonder if this git can look back and see daylight?? (head up arse attitude)
    I have a nasty feeling he looks forward and is blinded

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    Quote Originally Posted by ManDownUnder View Post
    I have a nasty feeling he looks forward and is blinded

    (sun shines out of his arse attitude)
    Now that would be funny....if it wasn't true!
    How many statistics/surveys/overseas research do Transit need to see, before they 'get it'?
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    Quote Originally Posted by yungatart View Post
    How many statistics/surveys/overseas research do Transit need to see, before they 'get it'?
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    What really annoys me is that Transit say they are 'hearing our concerns', yet they are installing these deathtraps as fast as they can.
    Basically, their words mean nothing, and their actions say they don't care.

    Kinda reminds me of the Thalidomide thing in the 60's...great idea on paper, rotten outcome.
    Do you realise how many holes there could be if people would just take the time to take the dirt out of them?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MadDuck View Post

    “There is no evidence of wire rope barriers posing any more of a danger to motorcyclists than other barriers,” Mr Flanagan says.

    Hi my name is Mr Flanagan. I have not been outside my home in 40 years, I have neither a phone nor the internet or a tv. No one has visited me. But I am an expert in the field of roadside barriers.


    Fuckstick there is plenty of info on the increased danger these barriers pose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yungatart View Post
    Now that would be funny....if it wasn't true!
    How many statistics/surveys/overseas research do Transit need to see, before they 'get it'?
    They haven't seen any according to his statement above.

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    That was a fairly good article though, i thought.
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    those barriers at wellsford are there to do nothing except protect a big soft claybank on one side, and a couple of scrawny poplar trees on the other, they serve no pupose where they are, except maybe to contain the wreckage in the confines of the tarmac to make after accident clean up easier and quicker.

    they would have less accidents through there if they filled in the farkin great big hangi pit that is right in the middle of one of the corners

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    Yeah its still bugging me so I went looking....you decide

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    concerened

    im wondering what it will take before transit change their minds over these cutters.
    eventually someone will take matters into their own hands, if transit cant get their act together.
    are our wishes just going to be put on the back burner and buried under a pile of paperwork. what ever the outcome from our roading god's i hope they fix something soon. or else give us a descision on what they intend to do or not do.
    sooner the better.
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    Quote Originally Posted by T.I.E View Post
    im wondering what it will take before transit change their minds over these cutters.
    eventually someone will take matters into their own hands, if transit cant get their act together.
    are our wishes just going to be put on the back burner and buried under a pile of paperwork. what ever the outcome from our roading god's i hope they fix something soon. or else give us a descision on what they intend to do or not do.
    sooner the better.
    In the meantime, one constructive thing that you can do, is get loads of signatures on that petition.
    The government and Transit cannot ignore that...there is set procedure for these things.
    Get out there and get it done!
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