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[PrincessBandit]

As a cage driver too, I would also be inclined to go along with homer - bikes which move into my safety space (which as a responsible driver I try to ensure) really piss me off. But then so do other cagers who do the same thing.

Oh, i thought a little more about this and feel i should add that it is bikes and cars which FORCE their way into my safety zone which really annoy me I do allow others to move in front of me when they're not doing so in an intimidating fashion (being the reasonable person that I am)

[car]

(DO remember to check for red light runners crossing your path before launch).

*wince*

Yeees. That's very important. Another good reason to filter to front minus one.

Also, pedestrians (human and animal) using the same lull in traffic to cross the road. They're watching the car next to you, they're expecting that car to take five seconds to get off the line. They're not expecting you to go for the holeshot.

[Skyryder]

If you are going to run up the right lane and then squeeze into the left lane at the last minute you are definatley going to piss someone off. You take up just as much space on the a bike as a car, so imgine that you are in a cage waiting patiently in the left lane another cage comes up on the right hand lane and pushes in how are you going to feel. And some want to do that on a bike. Madness.

Skyyrder

[rok-the-boat]

Seems quite normal to me, apart from being knocked off. Ya gotta be careful.

[xwhatsit]

EDIT: The situation is different if you are on a chook chaser . Then you cna almost always go up the left, using the ever available auxiliary chook lane where necessary. And just eliminate the corner, using that chook lane again. Small and manoeuvarable bikes like the GN250 can often do the same.

Often far safer on the left-hand corners. The advantage of 18" spoked wheels, I suppose. Just keep moving -- don't stop, or you get a $40 parking ticket Some pedestrians get the shits, but that's what ATGATT is for, you never know when you'll need to fend off an angry woman with an umbrella or restaurateur wielding a café chair. I worry about hurting my rims/forks hopping steep curbs at an angle like this; should I?

Watch out for traffic islands if you do this. DAMHIK.

[dipshit]

You could of course be a two wheeled car and just sit in the line of traffic, but then I really cannot comprehend why you are riding a motorcycle. And you would probably be wiser not to.

Oh please...

And just who the hell are you to define what motorcycling is or isn't..??

[dipshit]

Yep, I'd take the right turn lane and then rudely and dangerously turn left pissing off the car drivers - and here's the important part - I wouldn't whinge if I got hit because I knew I was being naughty.

Then in that case, can the rest of us have the right to not use our public money to pay for your hospital treatment... and share insurance costs and everything else..??

Please, please, please? If that's the attitude you want to take?

[dipshit]

Then in that case, can the rest of us have the right to not use our public money to pay for your hospital treatment... and share insurance costs and everything else..??

Please, please, please? If that's the attitude you want to take?

P.S.. Can we also have the option to exclude you from the statistics that make us all look like idiots..??

[Usarka]

Then in that case, can the rest of us have the right to not use our public money to pay for your hospital treatment... and share insurance costs and everything else..??

Please, please, please? If that's the attitude you want to take?

It's a no fault system.

P.S.. Can we also have the option to exclude you from the statistics that make us all look like idiots..??

Some amongst us dont need stats

If you want to change the stats also get farm bikes and off-road bike accidents removed from the "motorcycle" category......

[dipshit]

It's a no fault system.

True, but some people don't even care.

"Yep, I'd take the right turn lane and then rudely and dangerously turn left pissing off the car drivers - and here's the important part - I wouldn't whinge if I got hit because I knew I was being naughty"

I bet he would care a bit more if he had to spend the rest of his life paying off his own hospital treatment... but that's ok, we'll pick up the bill for him so he can carry on being the big tough motorcyclist.

If you want to change the stats also get farm bikes and off-road bike accidents removed from the "motorcycle" category......

Now that's an interesting point.

[Drum]

Chill out dipshit.

Can I assume that you have never played rugby, eaten fatty/ salty foods and never exceeded the speed limit on your bike? All risky activities that one chooses to do, and yet the tax payer would have to pick up the tab in the long run.

Careful you don't take out an eye with the sharp end of that knitting needle. Nana.

[nonferrous]

the rest of the world gives bikes the right and is completely tolerated whether cage drivers like it or not to push up to the front anyway they can

[homer]

No surprises here, I'm with Grub, RnB Fan, dipshit and Usarka. If the rider was the only one putting themselves in dangers way (even if it is only potentially) and the only one to suffer the consequences of impatient or foolish behaviour then I'd say "knock yaself out buddy". Unfortunately in a setting such as Tank describes other law abiding road users are at the bikes mercy (a little paradoxical sounding in know). As a cage driver too, I would also be inclined to go along with homer - bikes which move into my safety space (which as a responsible driver I try to ensure) really piss me off. But then so do other cagers who do the same thing. While I understand the bikes advantage in being able to do some of these manouevres in the hands of both skilled riders, and knobheads, are those minutes saved really worth risking your precious bike, life or lives of others? The perception of time is all relative - a few minutes which seems like forever when we're stuck in traffic or some other unpleasant situation flies in an instant when we're doing something we enjoy, yet only the same amount of time has passed. It's all in how we choose to interpret it.

I like the sound of the thread .... we must have something in common

[dipshit]

Chill out dipshit.

Can I assume that you have never played rugby, eaten fatty/ salty foods and never exceeded the speed limit on your bike? All risky activities that one chooses to do, and yet the tax payer would have to pick up the tab in the long run.

Careful you don't take out an eye with the sharp end of that knitting needle. Nana.

Oh? Don't like the sound of that idea, a? So you would start moaning and bitching if the nurse handed you the bill then?

Not so much the big bad motorcyclist that can take it on the chin now then.

[Drum]

What are you on about? And why are you so angry? This is a discussion on an internet forum. I think you need to take it easy pal.