Vehicle noise tests - New rules

[TonyB]

As has been said above, theres nothing wrong with a deep exhaust note. The problem is when there is insufficient baffling (or none) and you get that loud cracking sound- THATS whats annoying. To me they are not only WAY too loud, they sound like shit. I'm not exactly a Harley fan, but a Harley (or any other V-twin cruiser) with a well thought out set of pipes sounds bloody good. Best one I've ever heard was an early Evo 1340 with a Harris 2-1 on it. Fark it sounded mint Rashika's Buell XB12R sounds bloody good too (just don't tell her I said that)

[huck farley]

hey huck, you are going a long way to make enemies on this site....what a newbie like you stirring up shit!
fuck mate settle down a bit on voicing your opinions until you get some cred!

I won't be treated like the new kid at school mate If I want to disagree with some half wit (and there is a terrible lot on this site) then I shall do so.

How many brownie credit points do you have to acquire before you can have your say? I started of being nice with a couple of posts and within two days I was called a C$#T fukn Idiot etc.

So to hell with the credits. If someone singles me out then look out. I won't be sitting back, and taking it. I think most of the shit slinging has come from the HD riders as my User name says it all. But hey pal newbie or not. This fella takes a backward step for no cunt.

[Taz]

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[TOTO]

HAven't read the whole tread but here is what a guy at Mt. Eden Motorcycles told me: " do you want to get a louder pipe for your bike ?" - "yea , I'd love to but is it gonna pass the new regulations?" - " hell yea , if you bring it for a wof here no wories!!!"

So there you have it, I think its not going to affect us too much. There is always a way around.

[RC1]

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would you like some

[Bren]

I won't be treated like the new kid at school mate If I want to disagree with some half wit (and there is a terrible lot on this site) then I shall do so.

How many brownie credit points do you have to acquire before you can have your say? I started of being nice with a couple of posts and within two days I was called a C$#T fukn Idiot etc.

So to hell with the credits. If someone singles me out then look out. I won't be sitting back, and taking it. I think most of the shit slinging has come from the HD riders as my User name says it all. But hey pal newbie or not. This fella takes a backward step for no cunt.

man, you are falling over backwards to make fuckin enemies!!! some of those "half wits" are frikkin good people whom I respect
.If only you spend the time to get to know them before bad-mouthing them then you might learn a thing or two.
There is a wealth of knowlege on this site to be learned by a lot of them, and it seems those that know the most know it by living the school of hard knocks.
Quite a few Harley riders out there are older folk (sorry scummy), and as such have years of experience on the road....

BUT, if ya bad mouth them then are they gonna give you any of their hard earned knowlege??? nah mate, they will just frikkin either ignore ya or put you to shame in some way....

Get with the program mate and show some of these guys respect! or is respect something that no longer exists in your generation????

[Defiant]

Just a quik reply to this thread cause i cant be stuffed reading it all. As a MTA member and working with custom exhausts for bikes and cars every day i was informed of this law long ago and have a hard copy of the entire thing...too damn long. What the breif of it all is that the decibal limit for bikes will remain UNCHANGED. But in the past if your wof guy thought it was too loud you just had to get it sorted, after the law if it is considered too loud by the tester you can be instructed to have it tested before a wof will be issued and the test will be between 150-200 bucks depending on where it is done. When it has be checked your exhaust will be stamped as compliant. if you get pulled over you show the cop your certification sticker/stamp on the exhaust, if you dont have one you can be instructed by the cop to have it tested, either way it sucks, cause it all starts with how loud it sounds to the naked ear of the cop or the wof station. The law also states that the cost of the testing gear makes it un-economical for testing stations to have and the extra training envolve to use it so independent testers will be used. The Limit for the bikes is not being changed only the way they are going to police it.

If anyone wants a full copy i do have an easy to read/understand copy you can have. The biggest problem is the back lash the new law has on the trade fitters who install the custom/aftermarket exhausts, in the end the if the customer fails a wof regardless of wheather they asked for the exhaust system or not it still has to be repaired to comply at the cost of the company who installed it.

[huck farley]

Get with the program mate and show some of these guys respect! or is respect something that no longer exists in your generation????

I am not calling out any senior members in particular, merely sticking up for myself. I know the old timers with a million posts, look down on us scooter boys, and reading between the lines I get the feeling I should be seen but not heard.
Don't worry I will try not to upset to many old timers. I will make a lot of mates on this forum, and do have a few already, I am not the young rebellious young mouthing of Buck you think I am.
All I have to say Southern man is, that I have been riding myself for 40 years. Not some young buck mouthing of. Just an old one mouthing of. I am one of those senior riders that deserves respect also. But I don't give a horses arse If I do or don't. Anyway, Have a merry Christmas and a happy new year. That goes for every one who drops by and takes the time to read this post.
Cheers
Huck Farley

[Defiant]

Hey Huck dont stress i know how you feel. they'll get over it.........lol..I posted a few posts here and got nailed to the wall.....but hey have your say, its only fair, if people take it out of context thats not your fault, some people need to chill out. Merry Xmas to all too......

[Defiant]

I think anyone who says the "new" sound level laws are because of people who own Harley's need a serious head check.

Find me a 40-60 year old man, as that is the age bracket of most people with harleys, who rides around at 2am revving their engine.

The laws came about due to a younger age group with a few more wheels on their vehicle.


I haven't been pulled over yet on my newer bike, and I frequently use my bike late at night.

I have to agree with this too..

[The Lone Rider]

theres nothing wrong with a deep exhaust note

Deeper frequencies can still be at the same SPL level as the tones that are piercing and "too loud". Deeper frequencies have more compression force in them and do more damage not only to your hearing but to everything.

A guy standing in front of a W bin at a rock concert would have his kidneys destroyed from the bass.

I've had a 17hz sine wave fed through a PA system and average levels and after a few minutes had to get him to shut it off as my chest was tightening and I was on the verge of vomitting.

All you are talking about is obvious sensitivities of the human hearing, not the complete effect.

When you are sleeping a low rumble is at least as disturbing as something screeching its head off.

[Taz]

would you like some

Yes please

[Motu]

The biggest problem is the back lash the new law has on the trade .

For me the biggest problem is the backlash....and anger and abuse from customers....that us AVI's are subject too.A lot of us kinda of,um...bend our ears sort of y'know on exhaust noise.Something blatantly noisy is out,but a bit of noise is ok.But to have to turn around and fail someone on a system you've passed several times before turns a good customer into a vindictive prick you just want to tell to fuck off and never come back.I'm willing to bend rules with a sensible approach in certain areas,but when it can come back on me in the form of Police action,then I will fail the item,no matter what it is or who made it.It's up to the customer to prove their vehicle meets the regulation....all I have to say is no....The subjective test sucks...it's like saying I don't like the colour of your bike,the objective test removes my personal opinion from the equation.

[huck farley]

but when it can come back on me in the form of Police action,then I will fail the item,no matter what it is or who made it.It's up to the customer to prove their vehicle meets the regulation....all I have to say is no....The subjective test sucks...it's like saying I don't like the colour of your bike,the objective test removes my personal opinion from the equation.

Well there you have it. Straight from the horses mouth (excuse the pun) so to speak. So for all of you wise guys, that drilled the guts outa ya systems. You had better get scouring trademe for a set of legal pipes. I know where I can get my hands on a couple of sets. No not at the Massey Ferguson dealers either. My cobber has some hanging in his shed after wiseing up and buying a proper bike, an MV K2 (awesome bike) Keep an eye out for the "screamin legal" systems on Trademe.
cheers
H.F.

[huck farley]

hey huck, you are going a long way to make enemies on this site....what a newbie like you stirring up shit!
fuck mate settle down a bit on voicing your opinions until you get some cred!

Ya didn't get much of that cred you preach about yourself. Posting a horrific picture of dead cats on food trays and stretched over in glad rap. For sale at the mad butchers. Back in August.

I also noted that you wanted to delete the post, and didn't know how to. Only a mentally deranged sick mother fukka would have posted what you posted. And you have the Gaul to to tell me not to go stirring any shit because I'm a newbie. For fucks sake. I'm an angel in comparison to you. On yer fukn bike sunshine. Your the first on my ignore list!!