Sit down, and shut up NZ

[kro]

There is a bill being put forward in NZ, that will make free speech against governmental policy, incredibly hard for anyone, for 1 year leading up to an election. I am not overly politically motivated on issues other than family ones, but this caught my eye.

If you don't read anything else political this year, read this article. It shows how incredibly stupid our government thinks we are, whilst trying to subvert the basic right to be able to veto that which your government proposes, by way of protest, or similar action. It also is a flimsy admission of wrong doing by a government now too proud to admit it fucks up royally.
http://www.nzcpr.com/weekly96.htm

[Taz]

But..... Is it still illegal to assasinate?

[Hitcher]

John Key has been railing against this Bill for the past week or so, but there is no sign yet of a public groundswell. Maybe us apathetic New Zealanders deserve to have our rights of free speech taken away from us. Use it or lose it?

[Ixion]

Ironic, that.

Perhaps Dear Leader should adopt the KB model and tell those who object that as they do not Fit In they should Fuck Off.

It's all about "providing leadership". If you agree to being leadered you must needs accept that you shut up and do as the leaders tell you. Here, or there.

[ManDownUnder]

Ironic, that.

Perhaps Dear Leader should adopt the KB model and tell those who object that as they do not Fit In they should Fuck Off.

It's all about "providing leadership". If you agree to being leadered you must needs accept that you shut up and do as the leaders tell you. Here, or there.

The funny thing about leaders is that it's impossible to lead anyone not willing to follow...

I for one haven't heard about this bill till just now... but will be making a bit of noise in my own peer to peer way..

[devnull]

Ixion - I think they already have...

700 / week leaving the country says it all I reckon.

"Guy Falkes was the only person to ever enter parliament with honest intentions"

[ManDownUnder]

But..... Is it still illegal to assasinate?

If it's an attempt to criticise policy it is about to be... (ok ok - yes... technically...)

[James Deuce]

That's "Fawkes".

You lot didn't care when your freedom of movement was removed and need for proof of wrongdoing prior to incarceration was removed.

You won't care about this either.

[Mr Merde]

If anyone here actually believes that they live in a democracy then I'm sorry to have to burst your bubble but we dont.

The only time you have any sort of say in how you are governed is at election time, and your opinion\worries are only valid as long as they need your vote.

After that its your job to sit quietly by and let your masters do as they wish as they do know whats best for you and if you dare to disagree they will bring in laws such as this one to make your disagreement illegal.

[yod]

If anyone here actually believes that they live in a democracy then I'm sorry to have to burst your bubble but we dont.

The only time you have any sort of say in how you are governed is at election time, and your opinion\worries are only valid as long as they need your vote.

After that its your job to sit quietly by and let your masters do as they wish as they do know whats best for you and if you dare to disagree they will bring in laws such as this one to make your disagreement illegal.

what do we live in?

[Usarka]

Why do you think that Labour have been attacking John Key so much recently?

The personal attacks are hurting labour, but not as much as this bill would if people started realising what it was about.

Helen isnt stupid. corrupt, underhanded and dishonest maybe, but not stupid.

[Winston001]

Good to see a thread on this outrageous bill. I can scarcely believe that a Labour government, champions of free speech and rights for the ordinary person, is trying to muzzle political debate.

This is all a kneejerk reaction to the stupid feeding frenzy over the Exclusive Brethern support of National at the last election.

I'm no apologist for the Brethern who appear to be an odd bunch, but so what? They are entitled to their political views. Just as are Ixion and many others of us here. If we chose to spend some money saying what we believed as private citizens, why can't we??

This bill is quite simply an attack on our freedom of speech.

[avgas]

We need a full blown revolution in the country, Its a pity the US aren't here trying to take us over.
We need a common enemy. The NZ public are to docile, everytime we 'attempt' to push something out we fail.
Anitsmacking bill,
Tougher sentencing.
We need riots on the streets, chaos needs to erupts, good people need to be killed - before any of us will act.
We have no Taliban, No cults.
Our idea of fighting for freedom is to look at titties on queen st.
Those that do put ideas out there that the Government is fucked are considered radicals.....yet everyone has the same thought in the back of their minds.
Would the country run better without a government in NZ, No - because we are allready zombies who need a master to slap us around.

[Coldrider]

Rome was not built by committee, but by killing and burning all those that opposed, or something like that...

[yod]

Good to see a thread on this outrageous bill. I can scarcely believe that a Labour government, champions of free speech and rights for the ordinary person, is trying to muzzle political debate.

This is all a kneejerk reaction to the stupid feeding frenzy over the Exclusive Brethern support of National at the last election.

I'm no apologist for the Brethern who appear to be an odd bunch, but so what? They are entitled to their political views. Just as are Ixion and many others of us here. If we chose to spend some money saying what we believed as private citizens, why can't we??

This bill is quite simply an attack on our freedom of speech.

i think the main issue with the brethren was that they were attempting to influence political function without being open and honest about it

it's bad enough that they can force mindless drivel to their children who just accept it since they know no better, i for one certainly dont want idiots like them pulling political strings in my country